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22/03/2013
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| Quote: Dreamer "This is not the case.
The keighley lease was up for renewal and there was a distinct possibility that the co-op might try the wriggle out of a renewal and build on the land.
The RFL became involved to negotiate on Keighley's behalf with the net result that they took up the lease and sublet to Cougars. They did not give keighley a wedge of cash.
The other club that was saved by the rfl giving them a million quid (after lurching from one financial crisis to another in the mid 90's) was Huddersfield, who absorbed Sheffield, took their coach and players, pretended to be "merged" then spat them out ![]()
And they've been heavily subsidised ever since. |
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| Quote: Dreamer "This is not the case.
.....The other club that was saved by the rfl giving them a million quid (after lurching from one financial crisis to another in the mid 90's) was Huddersfield....'"
Hull were a 3rd..... |
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| Quote: Dreamer "This is not the case.
The keighley lease was up for renewal and there was a distinct possibility that the co-op might try the wriggle out of a renewal and build on the land.
The RFL became involved to negotiate on Keighley's behalf with the net result that they took up the lease and sublet to Cougars. They did not give keighley a wedge of cash.
The other club that was saved by the rfl giving them a million quid (after lurching from one financial crisis to another in the mid 90's) was Huddersfield, who absorbed Sheffield, took their coach and players, pretended to be "merged" then spat them out ![]()
You seem to be clueless on the merger. Each club entering the merger got their SL money. The cost of paying off a whole squad / coaches / management and admin staff would be well over £1m.
In 1999 the merger option was agreed by both the RFL executive and SL clubs. All SL clubs were openly aware of this option and free to apply for it.This is very different from the RFL executive clandestinely putting money into the Bulls - never seeking SL support/consent; never openly giving all SL clubs the option to apply for their leases or grounds to bought by Nigel Wood and the non execs.
The preferential treatment of some clubs by the RFL and their tampering is not the job of a Governing body IMO.
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If the clubs were run properly in the first place, governing body intervention wouldn't be needed.
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Quote: Cripesginger "You seem to be clueless on the merger. Each club entering the merger got their SL money. The cost of paying off a whole squad / coaches / management and admin staff would be well over £1m.
In 1999 the merger option was agreed by both the RFL executive and SL clubs. All SL clubs were openly aware of this option and free to apply for it.This is very different from the RFL executive clandestinely putting money into the Bulls - never seeking SL support/consent; never openly giving all SL clubs the option to apply for their leases or grounds to bought by Nigel Wood and the non execs.
The preferential treatment of some clubs by the RFL and their tampering is not the job of a Governing body IMO.'"
Umm...
A) sl clubs were consulted about the Bradford situation Eamon McManus in particular was very vocal about saving the bulls, source: www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2241
B) Bradford offered the lease, if I wanted to sell my car to a friend, I don't have to offer to open market before selling, I just sell it to my friend - why would I? Equally if I wanted to buy a car, do I have to go around asking everyone if they want to sell before buying? Selling the ground is a last resort for clubs financially, and it shouldn't be actively encouraged, and should only be in necessary circumstances.
C) you keep talking about preferential treatment, and I like how the unfair treatment your club got doesn't count as unfair treatment, but yet to actually hit on anything for the last 5 pages ... Do you actually listen to anything anyone else posts or do you just plough on stomping your feet saying it's not fair? |
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Quote: Cripesginger "You seem to be clueless on the merger. Each club entering the merger got their SL money. The cost of paying off a whole squad / coaches / management and admin staff would be well over £1m.
In 1999 the merger option was agreed by both the RFL executive and SL clubs. All SL clubs were openly aware of this option and free to apply for it.This is very different from the RFL executive clandestinely putting money into the Bulls - never seeking SL support/consent; never openly giving all SL clubs the option to apply for their leases or grounds to bought by Nigel Wood and the non execs.
The preferential treatment of some clubs by the RFL and their tampering is not the job of a Governing body IMO.'"
Umm...
A) sl clubs were consulted about the Bradford situation Eamon McManus in particular was very vocal about saving the bulls, source: www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2241
B) Bradford offered the lease, if I wanted to sell my car to a friend, I don't have to offer to open market before selling, I just sell it to my friend - why would I? Equally if I wanted to buy a car, do I have to go around asking everyone if they want to sell before buying? Selling the ground is a last resort for clubs financially, and it shouldn't be actively encouraged, and should only be in necessary circumstances.
C) you keep talking about preferential treatment, and I like how the unfair treatment your club got doesn't count as unfair treatment, but yet to actually hit on anything for the last 5 pages ... Do you actually listen to anything anyone else posts or do you just plough on stomping your feet saying it's not fair? | |
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The only issue with the RFL aquiring the lease on Odsal is that essentially Bradford will probably need to remain a SL club to afford to either pay the rental, or buy it back
With the proposed return of relegation, this could possibly become a problem
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22/03/2013
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| Quote: Starbug "The only issue with the RFL aquiring the lease on Odsal is that essentially Bradford will probably need to remain a SL club to afford to either pay the rental, or buy it back
With the proposed return of relegation, this could possibly become a problem'"
£100k a season to play there,4k gates with an average of £20 admittance prices,bar and food takings etc,no big deal really. |
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: j.c "£100k a season to play there,4k gates with an average of £20 admittance prices,bar and food takings etc,no big deal really.'"
You are Ryan whitcut aren't you? |
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| Quote: gutterfax "You are Ryan whitcut aren't you?'"
I forgot you get £90k of the rfl as well |
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: j.c "I forgot you get £90k of the rfl as well'"
Don't forget the 80's concerts |
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22/03/2013
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| Quote: gutterfax "Don't forget the 80's concerts'"
There are so many ways bradford could be a very successful semi pro club playing out of odsal |
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| Quote: j.c "There are so many ways bradford could be a very successful semi pro club playing out of odsal'"
There are so many ways bradford could be a very successful PRO club playing out of odsal. Alas incompetence put paid to that.
Be interesting to see khans next move. For those who haven't seen, he's changed his twitter summary to "saved bradfordbulls" - well at least he thinks they're fine ... Right? |
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "There are so many ways bradford could be a very successful PRO club playing out of odsal. Alas incompetence put paid to that.
Be interesting to see khans next move. For those who haven't seen, he's changed his twitter summary to "saved bradfordbulls" - well at least he thinks they're fine ... Right?'"
They're a pointless club now, always to be in the shadow of Leeds,just let Leeds & Huddersfield canabalise the market and grow there businesses.
Even Keighley could benefit from it |
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The RFL have an asset that even with out the RL club has a value.
Land always has a value to someone. Also the clandestine nature of this deal seems to be very poor. Nearly everyone knows about it.
Also there seemed to be some mixing up about SL clubs needing to know what the RFL is doing financially. This is not the case. If the RFL decided to step in to save London at some point in the future, it's got little to do with SL. The only question is once saved whether SL allow them to compete.
I'd imagine the Huddersfield Chairman will be all for keeping Bradford in SL despite the FBI CIA and NSA all helping them out clandestinely.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "The RFL have an asset that even with out the RL club has a value.
Land always has a value to someone.'"
Thats why the council will ask for a lot of money if their tenants (the RFL) want to do anything with their land which isn't covenanted (rugby league). |
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