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i think leeds got their fair share of dodgy calls ie the leeds player being taken into touch as silverwood shouted held at the same time he hit touch leeds got the penalty.

briers was stationary when "the obstruction" took place, he was going for the ball it went over his head so what is he meant to do dive on to the floor?

the ratchford try that didnt go to the video westwood knocks it backwards given as a scrum to leeds.

this is all being pedantic but the delany try in my opinion was correct call (of course on the day sat in the stands i was furious that it wasn't a high shot. but proved wrong when i watched it back)

briers was 50/50 again on the day i said we were lucky to get away with it but watching it back i think he gave benefit of the doubt

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Quote: SBR "Delaney was offside. He was in front of Leuluai when the ball hit Leuluai's hand.'"

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story, especially when Odem and the Electric Gliding Warrior are involved.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "As Briers' position has precisely zero relevance to the question of whether or not he knocked it on, the question is irrelevant.

As the images conclusively prove he did not knock on, i conclude you're just on the wind up.
The image does nothing of the sort, I therefore conclude you should have gone to spec savers.

Briers, in a standing position, attempts to catch the drop out. As he is in a standing position and therefore not moving forward he provides a good point of reference within the second picture where the ball is at an absolute minimum level with him as to the direction the ball went in after his poor attempt to catch.

Of course this is the common sense approach.

As i have mentioned, this could happen 1000 times and 999 times be called a knock on and not questioned.

If the touch judge called this it was by luck rather than judgement at full speed.

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Quote: Starbug "Leeds throw between 10 and 20 forward passes a game, so dont start moaning about other clubs getting away with the odd infringement, they also employ Ryan Bailey, reason enough to be penalised, not to mention Brent Webb, and Danny Buderus , who was unable to get up off the floor without leaning all over the opposition player as he played the ball Danny knocked on and kicked at the ball

You lost fair and square, get over it'"



He did well to infringe the play the ball from australia! icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "It was a knock on, the officials got it wrong'"

It really wasn't, and they really didn't.

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Quote: wolfinwidnes "briers was stationary when "the obstruction" took place, he was going for the ball it went over his head so what is he meant to do dive on to the floor?'"

To be fair here, Sir knew exactly what he was doing. He places himself in front of Joel then stands still. If he didn't lean into Hall, it's not a penalty but as he makes a conscious effort to "obstruct" him, penalty.

I can see why Silverwood didn't give it for the above reason of him just placing himself in a position to collect a potentially spilt ball. Keith Senior made a career out of this play. I wouldn't have called a penalty on that but also I would have pinged Briers for the "knock-on" which actually wasn't. Mistakes happen, no players are perfect, neither are refs but on this occasion it appears they for the majority correct.

People complaining about challenge in the air though, don't be silly.

And the other classic, Woodies punch should be a red card. Every game with a bit of spice would be abandoned and Bailey would play less minutes than Stuart Fielden in 2 years.

I've seen worst reffing this season alone, but don't let me spoil a good old conspiracy theory that Silverwood is also on the Wire "over the cap" wage bill.

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Mummy duck is now thoroughly depressed. SHE was the one that was famous for losing five in a row........until the 2011 GF!!!!!:



After watching the game back (and re-watching certian bits) I can honestly say.................the officials actaully did a pretty decent job. Whether by design, fluke or professionalism they got most of the calls right.

Its also good when you look at other things. Should Wood have stayed? In a normal game he probably wouldnt. Should officials take the nature of the game into consideration when applying the rules. BUT call it karma, he satyed.....as did Ablet who actually hit out at Wood first (go back and watch it and watch Ablets left hand).

In all...........a good day at the office for the guys in yellow.

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Quote: mikej "After watching the game back (and re-watching certian bits) I can honestly say.................the officials actaully did a pretty decent job. Whether by design, fluke or professionalism they got most of the calls right.

Its also good when you look at other things. Should Wood have stayed? In a normal game he probably wouldnt. Should officials take the nature of the game into consideration when applying the rules. BUT call it karma, he satyed.....as did Ablet who actually hit out at Wood first (go back and watch it and watch Ablets left hand).

In all...........a good day at the office for the guys in yellow.'"



I reckon the officials did a pretty good job in such a big game though Leeds fans will nitpick as much as they like if it makes them feel better...

I assume Wood didn't 'walk' because the severity of the offence wasn't witnessed fully by the ref hence Wood being only put 'on report' ?

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Quote: Lockyer4President! "Jeez you dumb pommies over-react over the littlest things…

Credibility gone because of a bad decision or two, grow up ffs...'"


I was about to laugh at this thread, and then I got depressed instead. Once again there are people spouting things on here about the 'laws' of the game that bear no resemblance to those laws which are rlfreely downloadablerl from the RFL website. Inexcusable.

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Quote: cod'ead "I'd like to see a referee and two particular touch judges appointed, as a team, to all fixtures. That way they can build something of a rapport and any inconsistencies should be easier to highlight and to deal with.'"



I vote coddy to replace Cummings at Red Hall. Common sense suggestion where it's easy to see the benefits that could result from it.

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maybe some of the officials would care to browse through them sometime ? especially before attempting the Perpignan run...

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Quite a strange thread this one.
It starts off so adamant that the officials are useless and get everything wrong and yet all of the forum experts are unable to agree on the 2 decisions.
IMO the Briers knock on was a knock on, but the decision to disallow the try was spot on (with the benefit of the VR)
Having said that, both of these decisions would very likely be given the opposite way round on a Sunday afternoon (without the VR)
Certainly the "try" would have stood.

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The BBC summary where they CGI'd in lines across the pitch at 1) the point of contact with the ball, and 2) where the ball actually landed, shows pretty clearly that the ball landed behind the point of impact with Briers, but I would definitely not be grumbling had that been given as a knock on, mainly because it would be so difficult to judge that on eye sight alone and could forgive the touchie for making the call - A lucky (but correct) break for Wire IMO.

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Kylie decision at the game baffled but did ref get it right, yes

Briers decision at the game baffled but did ref get it right, yes, he leans ever so discreetly into Hall.

Briers knock on, again at the game baffled on TV right call

only ones wrong for me is Paul Wood not going to the bin and Carvell ball strip when Bailey had clearly dropped it.

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Quote: sanjunien "maybe some of the officials would care to browse through them sometime ? especially before attempting the Perpignan run...'"


It's very, very rare that I've been to watch a game and come home convinced that the ref got it wrong, to then be proven correct on watching the replay on TV. The majority of the time the officials actually get it right, it's the arrogant big headed berks in the terraces who are mostly wrong. The most difficult aspect for the refs is the forward pass, and the only way you could be sure of getting that right every single time would be to have the depth perception of a falcon. Maybe we should be having a word with scientists to see if they can genetically modify our officials so that they have the additional fovea that birds of prey have!

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