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Also, I reckon there should be a mid season test series...... with France.
If you promoted properly, like a solid one year advance, and convince its a great way to watch test match rugby and spend a weekend in france during the summer on Bastille day, I think the britsih supporters would come... And fill it out.

France V GB (Mille on Bastille Day)
GB V France (Anfield Liverpool) something different

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Quote: goodie "cant believe people are leaving crabtree out of their squads in both exiles game he was our best prop for me, personally i woiuld pick hall every time over briscoe and cudjoe over atkins, yet again atkins defence in internationals is poor at best.'"


I'm sure Cudjoe's defence isn't much better than Atkins'. Atkins makes a lot more errors but offers a lot more in attack. Goulding should be above Cudjoe in the pecking order IMO but fans of other teams don't seem to want to accept that. He's solid in defence, makes yards from his own half, doesn't make many errors and his winger is this season's top try scorer. McBanana playing Ablett at 3 over Goulding in Exiles 1, splitting the Goulding/Charnley partnership in the process, highlights exactly how much the man is out of his depth.

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Quote: goodie "cant believe people are leaving crabtree out of their squads in both exiles game he was our best prop for me, personally i woiuld pick hall every time over briscoe and cudjoe over atkins, yet again atkins defence in internationals is poor at best.'"


Although the argument is Charnley or Briscoe, not Briscoe or Hall.

Tomkins
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Reed
Atkins/Goulding
Hall
Widdop
Brough
Burgess
Roby
Graham
Ellis
Hock
O'Loughlin

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Crabtree
Westwood
McIlorum

I would imagine would be my team.

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I think roby would be better at 13 playing the full 80. Possibly starting with mcclurum at hooker with burrow off the bench

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Quote: Partisan "Also, I reckon there should be a mid season test series...... with France.
If you promoted properly, like a solid one year advance, and convince its a great way to watch test match rugby and spend a weekend in france during the summer on Bastille day, I think the britsih supporters would come... And fill it out.

France V GB (Mille on Bastille Day)
GB V France (Anfield Liverpool) something different'"


I agree, we gave up on France too soon in my opinion.

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Brainstorming time of the month again is it Mid Season for 3 weeks, no club matches in this time.
State of Origin (Australia)
War of the Roses/Exiles (England)
New Zealand 'Origin' (New Zealand, Cook Islands)
European Cup (France, Wales, Scotland, Ireland)
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European Bowl (Germany etc)

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Year One 6 Nations Northern Hemisphere (Australia, New Zealand, England, 1st Pacific Cup, 1st European Cup, 2nd European Cup)
Year Two 6 Nations Southern Hemisphere (Australia, New Zealand, England, 1st Pacific Cup, 1st European Cup, 2nd Pacific Cup)
Year Three World Cup Qualifiers, Ashes or Tours
Year Four World Cup

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So move the best English 9 away from his best position and therefor lose our best 13 just to play Roby there. No thanks.

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I know Roby used to come on at 13 occasionally so both he and Cunningham could be on the pitch at the same time but I really don't know what that would acheive now. His speciality is running from dummy half on the back of a quick play the ball, you wouldn't get that from him if he was playing at 13, plus you'd have to sacrifice a specialist loose to accomodate him! Terrible idea IMO.

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Tomkins/Ratchford
Briscoe/Broughton
Yeaman/Goulding
Atkins/Watkins
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Widdop/Smith
Lomax/Myler
Graham/Hill
Roby/Houghton
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Mossop/Taylor
Hill/Mc-Scarsbrook
Mcilorum/Burrow
Hock/Luke Burgess

Always a possibility that a young player like a Currie or Bateman, Patrick, Farrell maybe Tuson etc hopefully a half back will take the comp by storm and take a squad place and if Simon Grix is eligble and would switch from Ireland he would be worth a place in the squad

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Quote: A unknown superstar "Just the two? Surely with you been a Wigan fan, you'd be able to name more than two. If he's managed more than two of course.'"


I picked the 2 most notable examples, there's been others but I just can't remember them off the top of my head.

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Roby starting at 13 is a bad idea in my opinion. Moving him to 13 and bringing burrow on at 9 later in the game would work well though in my opinion. We need to change tactics against the australia so a 2 hooker system could work to our advantage.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "I know Roby used to come on at 13 occasionally so both he and Cunningham could be on the pitch at the same time but I really don't know what that would acheive now. His speciality is running from dummy half on the back of a quick play the ball, you wouldn't get that from him if he was playing at 13, plus you'd have to sacrifice a specialist loose to accomodate him! Terrible idea IMO.'"


You don't get a QPTB against the aussies. Roby to 13 with a 'clever' hooker might be a good shout in terms of tactics.

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Quote: A unknown superstar "Obviously I'm biased but Briscoe has proven that he can do alot more than just scored tries and some brilliant ones at that. Charnley although he's a very good winger and one of the best English wingers around is fortunate to be playing for easily the best team in the comp were alot of his tries are handed to him. Which he mentioned himself on the Super League show the other night. Can't recall seeing him break a tackle and go the full length of the pitch or anything of note.
Like I said I'm obviously going to be bias but for me Hall and Briscoe are the two best wingers for England at the minute, followed by Charnley.'"


Where has this theory come from that wingers have to go the full length to be good?

A good winger imo is one that can defend his corner well when asked too and is in the position to score tries should the ball come to him. Yes some of Josh's tries have been 'put on a plate' but a lot of them have taken some scoring, be it outpacing his opposite number, grounding the ball from a kick or squeezing his way over ala Ryan Hall. They haven't been Ade Gardner-esque 'catch and put down' tries.

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Quote: Conroy "Where has this theory come from that wingers have to go the full length to be good?

A good winger imo is one that can defend his corner well when asked too and is in the position to score tries should the ball come to him. Yes some of Josh's tries have been 'put on a plate' but a lot of them have taken some scoring, be it outpacing his opposite number, grounding the ball from a kick or squeezing his way over ala Ryan Hall. They haven't been Ade Gardner-esque 'catch and put down' tries.'"

Agreed for me it's hall + 1 for England and that one in my opinion should be charnley

Tomkins

Charnley
Watkins
Reed
Hall

Widdop
??? Lomas

Graham
Roby
Mossop

Hock
Westwood
Burgess

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Quote: rhinos21 "Agreed for me it's hall + 1 for England and that one in my opinion should be charnley

Tomkins

Charnley
Watkins
Reed
Hall

Widdop
??? Lomas

Graham
Roby
Mossop

Hock
Westwood
Burgess'"

I'd have Brough over LomaX, and Ellis in the back row somewhere.

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