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| I think an interesting use for it would be to say at the end of the game, we have inputted the stats from the game (not including tries and goals etc) and the margin metre reckons that based on this the score should be... Then see how that compares to the actual score. This would give us an idea of just how important things like possession and completion actually are.
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| Quote: binks "as an aside would the photos be of dad or his girlfriend, if the latter can i be copied in ??'"
Dirty boy!!!
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| Quote: binks "as an aside would the photos be of dad or his girlfriend, if the latter can i be copied in ??'"
Both. Together. With the Sydney Harbour bridge in the background.
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| Salford by 14
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| At one point tonight it was saying Salford by 20....
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| the only reason its pointless is because a rugby game never stays the same its allways changing so if salford kept playing the same way in the 2nd half i would expect it to be 20 points. they should look at factors leading in to the game and then try to perdict the score like they do in the stats before games. i think eddie hemmings has put this tool across wrong it shouldn't be perdiction tool it should be a way of showing how the game is falling.
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| The only thing now interesting me is just how far out this contrivance can be. Tonight's halftime to fulltime swing is a new record...44 points. Could take some beating.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Algorithms? I thought bookies used highly paid odds compilers, to make a book, on the fly?
What's this Sky Predictor? If somebody invented a system that could go through a 12 race card at a greyhound meet, I'd be pretty sure it'd be owned by a guy in a gold plated yacht moored off Barbados.'"
Depends on the sport. Horses, yes, big influence from odds compilers but still a huge reliance on data or else Timeform wouldn't be in business. Sports are largely algorithms, no matter what people on this thread say (I deemed your response the most intelligent and reasonable to respond to). The people who implement them are highly paid too. Look around for a job as an Odds Compiler and you will struggle. You'll see plenty of jobs as a trader, which is competely different.
My example regarding the Predictor was obviously a one off and the predictor is largely for novelty purposes but it shows how a feature can actually be interesting and respected.
Bookies were 24 points or so on the handicap and had it spot on near enough. And this was nothing to do with this evenings "odds compilers" opinion on tonights match.
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| Quote: binks "Sorry but a Bookie is far from accurate enough to really call it a scientific algorithm, at best a very educated guess otherwise no one would ever win??'"
Well you've just nailed it. Nobody ever wins. They have the advantage all the time because they employ some extremely clever people who use data to their advantage.
And this is coming from someone who loves a punt. But I'm not naive.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "I think an interesting use for it would be to say at the end of the game, we have inputted the stats from the game (not including tries and goals etc) and the margin metre reckons that based on this the score should be... Then see how that compares to the actual score. This would give us an idea of just how important things like possession and completion actually are.'"
I'd also do a prediction at the start as well like Bilko does on the Wigan match previews.
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| Is it broken?
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| No its not broken.
I borrowed it from Clarkey last night.
Before the game it said Manly by 60. However by halftime it said Leeds by 104.
Good isn't it?
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| Quote: Mark_W "Is it broken?
Irreparably I hope.
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| what is it exactly?
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| Quote: adelaide-giant.no9 "what is it exactly?'"
Phil Clarke's latest useless invention. It's on a par with the try tracker.
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