Jamie Peacock

Quote: vastman "That's the key one. Good SL player and I'd have him in my team but has never ever had the X Factor to play at international level.

When will we learn that ordinary won't cut it especially in a pivotal position. He has no attributes that allow him to shine against the best in the world. He is too small, has no pace, is not a great passer of the ball, has an average kicking game. This is bad enough but he can't read the game either and by now he should be word perfect.

Can you imagine the Aussies persisting with him if he were as Aussie. Leon Pryce was hardly world class but he was big and hard to handle with a turn of speed and he is the best we have come up with in years.

Truth is we simply do not produce enough good players, nothing to do with intensity etc. We could have a league of six teams with no imports and we would still be no better, because Sinfield would still be one of the best.

I'll also throw Atkins in the mix. Technically not a great centre but at least he's strong and fast and might have actually troubled the Aussies. Instead we play Yeaman who is a workmanlike centre who goes well at SL but simply has nothing to offer at this level.'"

Classic opinion of someone who only applauds players who make outstanding and obvious breaks. If you review the 4 nations, I would say sinfield will be comfortably top of the assist charts for England, I may be wrong but yet again the 8 points we scored against Australia on Saturday were a result of Sinfield. He is never going to make clear breaks or many tackle busts, but the defence and attack is both bossed by Sinfield who had to take control as nobody else can. It's all very well playing players who may make some breaks but if there is no set structure you will get nowhere, watch the game back and look at how he is constantly controlling the defensive line and pointing players into the correct positions. He was targeted as the Australians knew he is our main pivot, which totally restricted his game. To say he can't read the game is laughable, I would be willing to bet if we had played the likes of Widdop at SO we would have scored considerably less points partnered with Chase. As it stands Sinfield is the only player who can boss the team around the pitch. Many of our players however dynamic they may be such as Chase, Widdop and Tomkins, are very indivdual and do not often bring team mates into the game.