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| Quote: justarugbyfan "How do you know it was intentional?
If it was he deserves a legnthy ban but it all comes down to whether he did it deliberately.'"
You're right, he accidentally puled Harrisons head back using his eye socket then accidentally threw an upper cut.
Just like he accidentally took drugs and accidentally grabs refs.
I can see why you'd be unsure about it, he's usually so well behaved.
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| Quote: justarugbyfan "How do you know it was intentional?
If it was he deserves a legnthy ban but it all comes down to whether he did it deliberately.'"
Have a look at on Sky tonight. It was deliberate.
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| Quote: WireFanatic III "I do understand that you're having to defend your player from the shocking actions that he has undertaken, and trying to deflect it by going on about how Morley should get what is coming to him for being a cheat......
......but bascially with that attitude you're making yourself look like a tvvat.'"
What Hock did was wrong. But your players aren't angels either.
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| Quote: justarugbyfan "What Hock did was wrong. But your players aren't angels either.'"
How do you know, it could have been an accident
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| Quote: FearTheVee "How do you know, it could have been an accident
Oh get stuffed. How do you know it was deliberate? YOU DON'T!
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| Quote: justarugbyfan "Oh get stuffed. How do you know it was deliberate? YOU DON'T!'"
It was every bit as deliberate as the uppercut which followed it.
Only a one-eyed moron (that's you by the way) can't see it.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "It was every bit as deliberate as the uppercut which followed it.
Only a one-eyed moron (that's you by the way) can't see it.'"
That's your opinion. I've expressed my opinion too.
Lets just agree to disagree on this because I'm quite frankly sick of replying to you
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| Quote: FearTheVee "It was every bit as deliberate as the uppercut which followed it.
Only a one-eyed moron (that's you by the way) can't see it.'"
At risk of being labelled a one-eyed moron – I would say there is some doubt about whether the contact with the eyes was deliberate
Hock was pulling at Harrison’s face but I cannot state absolutely that he deliberately targeted Harrison’s eyes with a deliberate gouge – it was certainly less cut and dried that the upper cut he then threw
Don’t think I am defending Hock – he acted like a dirty thug but I cannot say 100% that is was a deliberate gouge
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| Quote: Dunbar "At risk of being labelled a one-eyed moron – I would say there is some doubt about whether the contact with the eyes was deliberate
Hock was pulling at Harrison’s face but I cannot state absolutely that he deliberately targeted Harrison’s eyes with a deliberate gouge – it was certainly less cut and dried that the upper cut he then threw
Don’t think I am defending Hock – he acted like a dirty thug but I cannot say 100% that is was a deliberate gouge'"
Thank God!
Someone else isn't so convinced.
What he did was dirty but I'm not sure whether the eye gouge was deliberate
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "But did he deliberately play at his opponent's head? If not, should a player be disadvantaged if it wasn't a deliberate play at the head of an opponent?'"
No im not sure he did, but yes the burden of responsibility has to rest with Tomkins in that situation.
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| Quote: justarugbyfan "How do you know it was intentional?
If it was he deserves a legnthy ban but it all comes down to whether he did it deliberately.'"
He is responsible for having his hands where he had them.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "He is responsible for having his hands where he had them.'"
Many people put their hands on peoples faces. They aren't all charged for gouging.
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| Quote: justarugbyfan "Many people put their hands on peoples faces. They aren't all charged for gouging.'"
Mainly because they try not to claw their fingers into an eye socket and pull. Just a thought.
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| Quote: justarugbyfan "Many people put their hands on peoples faces. They aren't all charged for gouging.'"
Many people dont make the action Hock did when their fingers were around the eyes. He cant do what he did and expect the benefit of the doubt for his intent.
Im not sure he intended to eye gouge but equally im sure every movement he makes is knowing the hands are in the face and his fingers around the eyes. His responsibility is to not do what he did. The fact it may have been reckless as opposed to intentional isnt much of a defence. And to argue it was reckless rather than intentional is difficult when he goes on to swing at the same player.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "How do you know, it could have been an accident
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