So, to summarise, Shenton doesn’t offer anything in attack and yet Yeaman and Briscoe’s inclusion through proven try scoring is crap. Defending is most important when we face the Aussies and Welham can’t defend

Who exactly would you play in the centres and wing for England?

defending against the aussies,out wide, is'nt as big a issue as it used to be..

inglis - injured
hodges - injured
jennings - done nothing apart from rock upto training drunk
idris - looks good cos he's a fast prop running a small wingers
tate - biscuit body

they are struggling in the for once lol


its all about not being scared of them...yeaman went up against gasnier on his debut...and yeaman destroyed him

Hall has scored a hatful. He is a very good winger, big, strong, great appetite for work, decent hands, decent under the high ball, wonderful finishing ability. Im happy with him over Briscoe.
Tomkins, Briscoe, Yeaman, Tomkins, Hall

is a decent back five for us. I think its dangerous, big, fast, strong, dynamic

sorry, but briscoe over hall for me, you described evertyhing briscoe is with your description of hall

I dont think Briscoe is a bad player. In fact I think he is probably the more likely of the two to create some 'magic'. I think Hall does more work, and is a better finisher, Briscoe does less but to a slightly higher standard and is more likely to pull something out of the hat.

Hall will get you more from your exit sets and will finish anything you offer him, Briscoe is more dangerous and can still get them down.

They will be complement each other well imo. Better than Carney/Reardon, Carney/Pryce/Raynor

your all focusing on the wrong position....

if we had world class then it does'nt matter if we pick hall or briscoe...but we don't which is why it makes sense you us partnerships instead

briscoe is also more likely to win hull/england more penalties as he is hard to put down and his upper body strength is frightning, even tony smith admires him as he put it down to briscoe as one of our main reasons for beating warrington earlier in the season

I agree that Hall is a good finisher but I cannot agree that you get more from him on the exit sets - for me Hall does not run his size and Briscoe is remarkably strong and invariably finds his front which creates a fast play the ball and momentum moving forward

Despite the 100 metre tries, the strongest part of Briscoe's game for me is bringing the ball away from his line which is just what you need in international football

Again, nothing against Hall as he is a good winger but in a straight choice for the left wing - Briscoe every time for me

If we were going for the partnership approach, I would select

Jones-Bishop
Watkiins
Yeaman
Briscoe

I cant agree, Hall makes metres, time and time again, alot of carries, often taking it up as first receiver like a prop rather than running from dummy half.

I'd play Hall on the right, because i think he could work well with Tomkins. Yeaman and Briscoe play together on the left at club level it would seem silly to move them. Given a straight choice I'd go for Hall.

Watkins and BJB are clearly the most exciting option, but id want Tomkins in there. If anyone is dropped for Watkins it has to be Yeaman. And as a Leeds fan I certainly wouldnt take BJB over Hall.

Watkins was shown up very badly in defence by Francis Meli earlier in the season, Meli ran over him and around him time and time again. He isn't quite ready yet, certainly one for the future though.

One wing should undoubtedly be Yeaman and Briscoe, with the other out of a choice from:

Wing: Hall, McGilvary, Jones-Bishop and Charnley. Maybe Broughton and depending on what kicking options there is in the team Foster. (Foster only if there is no other goal kicking options.)

Centres: Atkins, Bridge, Shenton, Tomkins and Cudjoe.

Watkins and Jones-Bishop are right sided though so I don’t see it as a choice between Watkins and Yeaman but Watkins and Tomkins in this regard. As the year has progressed I think Tomkins has put himself in contention for the right centre spot but I think Watkins has all the talent in the world and would do well if he got a chance internationally

As for the wings... I would go with BJB if we were talking partnerships to partner Watkins... but for me, the best right winger in the competition this year has been McGillvary and he has shown the same strength and finishing as Hall and Briscoe have

I think we are lucky to have three wingers in Briscoe, Hall and McGillvary who can compete internationally... a partnership from any two of these would be light years ahead of the Calderwood and Gardner partnership we had in the last world cup

Not sure how you can say Hall is a better finisher to be honest.

The glass half full crowd would say that Briscoe is more efficient at turning the chances he gets into tries, irrespective of where he gets the ball. His Centre is renowned for not passing to him that often, yet despite this he still produces the good when given the chance.

Hall has scored 20 tries playing outside Carl Ablett, a player doing a good job but not a centre. I dont think Hall being better means Briscoe isnt good.