You really arent making any sense at all. You want Crusaders to exist, but not if they can't be relegated from the championship, but you're happy for them not to be relegated from championship 1. You want them to play by the same rules as everyone else (Lets avoid the point about how many clubs in the championships are relying on overseas players and how many clubs are breaking salary caps, we wouldnt want you to look too much of a hypocritical fool would we?) even though they arent in the same position as everyone else (i wonder how leigh would be doing if they needed to pay a premium for players who had come through SL academies to move to join them) and you are happy for them to be funded by the RFL, but if they get a parachute payment that immediately precludes them from being promoted(and it also precludes them from playing by the same rules as everyone else)

So to some up, you want a crusaders club which cannot compete because of the salary cap, to play at the lowest professional level so that people can see the lowest level of professional rugby league, you want them to play by the same rules as everyone else but you are happy for them to not play by the same rules as everyone if it disadvantages them and you want them funded by the RFL but that self-same funding precludes them from moving forward.


This is Starbugs guaranteed successful approach to expansion.

Diddums. So, to summarize please list who you think is to blame for the failure of Crusaders. I'll start and finish your list, you just fill in the rest.

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8. The RFL.

Away you go with all your bollax . . . .

No, id be happy to see them in the championships if the rules were fair and allowed them to compete on a level playing field. Unfortunately doing that would mean removing/changing a fair few rules which actually benefit the heartland clubs.

Im happy to leave the decision over whether we remove/change the rules to allow a level playing field or whether we simply apply them to Crusaders (and any other club in a similar position) to the heartland clubs.

Maybe if you spent less time thinking up bollax you can attribute to me and then argue against and more time thinking about you were saying, you might avoid talking so much bollax.

I don't have to spend any time thinking - the crap you put on here is plentiful. It runs on here like a tap. You don't like it up you do you son?

Richard , you are missing the primary point here

The Crusaders didn't fail , it was a success

So which are these rules that would need changing to have a level playing field ? , I await with bated breath the words of Chairman Smokey

Starbug and Richie post here mostly because a) they love the game of Rugby League and b) because they have (like myself for Fax, and equally for a number of Crusaders fans) have a close affinity and passion for their local team.

The Hull supporters at the Crusaders game obviously related to the local support for the home team. This is what sport is all about, and I still hold in my mind a comment from a Widnes fan in the Fax debacle season of 2003... "Good luck" is all he said to me (relegation was confirmed that day), and I've held that thought (and hope) ever since.

The tripe and garbage spouted on this forum is pathetic (and not from the above-named).

But that is obviously impossible. It is so obviously impossible it is embarrassing. How, in reality, can they receive extra financial assistance and it not benefit them on the field? If they receive financial help that they use on marketing or on youth development then that is money they would have had to spend on marketing or youth development that they no longer have to that they can now spend 'on the field'. Which you have just stated you dont want them to.

You also want to insist that they play by exactly the same rules but then want to allow them extra dual reg players, which of course precludes them playing by the rules.

And by doing these things which you want them to do, you also want them to be precluded from moving forward.

I also dont see why they would need to employ expensive overseas players, im not sure anyone but you has mentioned it.