It isn't. If you want to put your ar$e out there then that's your business. Do you understand the concept of INDEPENDENT supporters trust?

Yes i do.

Do you understand the concept of deniability?

Funny how the opinions of the supporters club and the actual club are identical isn't it.

And if it isn't why hasn't the Halifax club come out and distanced themselves from these fskwitted morons?

The club may even agree with them but they haven't [iorchestrated[/i the campaign. That's my point and one which you are failing to understand. It's also a shame that you view passionate fans as fskwitted morons.

You've got absolutely no evidence of what you're saying, and why would the club address the opinions of an independent body? People are mostly reasonable enough to know they are not one and the same!

You are not making any sense whatsoever!

Be careful rich, he will claim "he was trolling" in a minute. Always raises a laugh.

That's the sad thing - he isn't even doing that.

Totally clueless that one

Complete and utter rubbish.

How does a club with an average customer base of between 1-2000 'keep up', as you put it, with clubs that have at least double the number of customers AND a gift in excess of £1million every year?

Similarly, I'd like to know how said clubs are supposed to get to the level of Leeds, Hull & Wigan without the £1million gift and the increased crowds you get in SL?

Fsking idiots indeed...

I suggest you ask Catalans Dragons, Castleford Tiger, Hull KR and Widnes Vikings. They seem to have managed to bring themselves from a lower level into SL and survive (OK Widnes haven't started yet but I'm sure they will be OK this time)

That's not what I asked. That's not what Smokey said should be required for a CC club to get a license.

I agree with you by the way.

Back to the OP, my own personal opinion as a board member of another Supporters Trust, I think the Halifax campaign is embarassing and brings the role of Trusts into disrepute. I had sympathy for Halifax's situation but cannot support a campaign with such a negative and narrow minded title. It's not even accurate - it suggest the RFL don't support P&R themselves, when they clearly do as it exists in many levels of the game other than SL.

This is my point, they are blithering idiots whose sole achievement will be to damage the wider game as a whole and the Halifax club in particular with this utterly stupid, ill conceived, badly worded, badly delivered "campaign".

Maybe they'd be better off trying to get people from Halifax to actually go to the games, which will be the surest way of getting Fax into Super League.

No Im not trolling, but I am fed up of tin pot clubs thinking they have a divine right to be in the top flight.

Great examples...

Catalan - yes a success

Cas - been in SL for all but 2 years of its existence so not quite equivalent to other CC clubs. But, they have no rich backer and work on a shoestring. If they hadn't gone up in 2007 they would have gone bust just as Widnes did but would've been unlikey to undergo the same Lazarus like recovery. IIRC they were renegotiating their loan with the bank not long after.

Hull KR - fortunate to have a sugar daddy otherwise....

Widnes, let's see eh?

While the original concept is e good one , ie it is time for some displeasure at the recent decisions of the RFL to be highlighted , the original wording is wrong , however I think a more interesting slogan is now in the offering , one that many clubs will support , well those outside SL anyway 2.67724609375:5