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Quote: PHIPPS "I'll give you a clue.

I went to the shop earlier and I purchased a can of Red Bull.

Quite legally....'"


However, you could still fail a sports drugs test for having too much caffeine in your system – whether from a Red Bull, coffee or Pro Plus tablets.

Just as you could fail a drugs test for using an over-the-counter cold remedy.

The situation is currently ridiculous. Started as a proxy war in the Cold War, the issue of drugs in sport is totally out of control when consumption of a Lemsip would see you fail a test. It long ago (if ever) ceased to be about the health of the athlete and has become a sort of sports eats itself circle of craziness, with the testers always slightly behind the drug/masking producers (who are probably quite large companies, given the research etc needed – they're not just some bloke with a chemistry set in the garden shed).

The entire list should be scrapped completely and then we sit down and think out a rational and coherent approach to the issue.

On recreational drugs – slightly complex, since the cocaine could possibly improve performance. On the other hand, I'd leave something like a player using dope to their club as an internal disciplinary matter – since one would think it might do exactly the opposite of improving performance. As a slight aside, that then raises the question of booze: for a serious player in any sport to be drinking a great deal cannot be good for their performance – yet it appears that clubs (in various sports and to varying degrees) tolerate it.

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Well, he's back (sort of). Seems he's been given clearance to train but the playing ban remains in place until 23rd June. No links as yet but this is from the RFL according to various tinternet sources.

Great news: great for Hock, great for Wigan, great for England, great that it's gonna upset loads of people. icon_thumb.gif

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: Cronus "Well, he's back (sort of). Seems he's been given clearance to train but the playing ban remains in place until 23rd June. No links as yet but this is from the RFL according to various tinternet sources.

Great newsgreat that it's gonna upset loads of people.

Or maybe just that the vast majority of people will be pretty indifferent to it.

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Quote: FearTheVee "Which is on WADA's list? That might give you a clue as to why people think its irrelevant.

Passing something forward at Tesco's till isn't against the rules either, but it is on a rugby pitch.'"

So no other reason than someone somewhere else once said it was different?

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Quote: Mintball "However, you could still fail a sports drugs test for having too much caffeine in your system – whether from a Red Bull, coffee or Pro Plus tablets.

Just as you could fail a drugs test for using an over-the-counter cold remedy.

The situation is currently ridiculous. Started as a proxy war in the Cold War, the issue of drugs in sport is totally out of control when consumption of a Lemsip would see you fail a test. It long ago (if ever) ceased to be about the health of the athlete and has become a sort of sports eats itself circle of craziness, with the testers always slightly behind the drug/masking producers (who are probably quite large companies, given the research etc needed – they're not just some bloke with a chemistry set in the garden shed).

The entire list should be scrapped completely and then we sit down and think out a rational and coherent approach to the issue.

On recreational drugs – slightly complex, since the cocaine could possibly improve performance. On the other hand, I'd leave something like a player using dope to their club as an internal disciplinary matter – since one would think it might do exactly the opposite of improving performance. As a slight aside, that then raises the question of booze

Sums up the current state of affairs rather well me thinks. I can only imagine that coke would improve performance if it was taken a relatively short period of time before the game. Having a few snifters with some beers 3 or 4 days earlier is unlikely to have any positive effects, quite the opposite imo

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "I think that some people on here need to remember the Terry Newton situation. Yeah what good the rules did for him. It’ll be a very petty circumstance if Gareth has to serve it off the field all because a few self-righteous rugby league supporters.'"


You can't take the end of Terry Newton's life and use that as a reason not to punish those who take drugs, or the lengthy bans handed down to them. Them's the rules, the players all know that, and the risks when they take whatever they take.

If they want lenient bans for performance-enhancers, they should go to union...

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