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| Quote: Saddened! "I would say Wigan as a club, it's fans, staff and cronies like Clarke reacted to the defeat in a very poor way. They have no grace and no class as a club and their fans should be ashamed of themselves for the bile they spouted after the game. Anyone associated with Wigan has a cheek to be complaining of cheating and rugby gods after Wigan's deliberate salary cap rorting to avoid relegation a few years back.
It all makes Saturday's game very interesting. Whoever wins is going to have several chunks torn out of them. The RFL need to pick a very, very strong referee for this one as it could get out of hand very, very quickly.'"
Are you suggesting the return of Showbiz Steve?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "so why criticise Peacock for saying something you agree with?'"
Another cryptic comment, but what I said about Peacock is so self-explanatory that I don't need to respond to your baffling question.
Quote: SmokeyTA "other than the video evidence '"
Which video evidence would that be? Unless you have a feed to some pictures other than those transmitted?
Quote: SmokeyTA "its one sentence, read the whole sentence rather than starting in the middle of it. Somebody else is mentioned, and also what they are doing and why they are doing it. '"
Sorry but they are your words. I obviously already read the whole sentence. Are you in your laboured way trying to say you meant something other than the obvious meaning of the admittedly rather tortuous sentence you typed?
Quote: SmokeyTA "Your attempt to be a smart isnt going too well is it?'"
I shouldn't bother with the personal stuff. Suffice to say no smartassing on my part - I was just trying to have a discussion.
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| Quote: GB Lion "Ohhh he got his words the wrong way round? ohh thats ok then
Just like a few crass Wigan fans on these boards.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Another cryptic comment, but what I said about Peacock is so self-explanatory that I don't need to respond to your baffling question.'"
it seems you are baffled by quite simple things
Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Which video evidence would that be? Unless you have a feed to some pictures other than those transmitted?'" the pictures broadcast showed Wigan players surrounding Mcguire.
Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Sorry but they are your words. I obviously already read the whole sentence. Are you in your laboured way trying to say you meant something other than the obvious meaning of the admittedly rather tortuous sentence you typed? '"
well then you should clearly understand, who the other person was, what they were doing and why they were doing it Ill give you a clue, the person was you.
Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I shouldn't bother with the personal stuff. Suffice to say no smartassing on my part - I was just trying to have a discussion.'" of course you were, in further news Im the new King of Spain
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| Quote: craigizzard "Are you suggesting the return of Showbiz Steve?'"
I'm thinking more along the lines of a guest referee. Hulk Hogan or Barrack Obama or Russell Crowe. Someone the players will listen to.
if they send in a fool like Smith or Thaler there will be carnage.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "it seems you are baffled by quite simple things'"
I asked you to pack this stuff in. You continue to be personal and "smartass". Not me.
Quote: SmokeyTA "the pictures broadcast showed Wigan players surrounding Mcguire.'"
Look, we all watched, you don't need a commentary. What they did not show is any delaying of treatment, and that's the point you're avoiding.
Quote: SmokeyTA "well then you should clearly understand. Who the other person was, what they were doing and why they were doing it. Ill give you a clue, the person was you.'"
Like GB Lion, I must have missed the article where McLennan apologised to the entire Wigan squad for accusing one of them of causing the injury as his precious Daniel lay prostrate on the ground, instead of what actually happened.
Awaits some blind stupid Leeds fans to explain he was only steadying himself on Carmont because his knee had gone.
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| Quote: Smokey TA "I'm sure not even you beleive that'"
That you continue to be personal? Well yes, just read the thread.
Quote: Smokey TA "Look, we all watched, you don't need a commentary. What they did not show is any delaying of treatment, and that's the point you're avoiding.
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you said it seems without foundation, '" '"
Yes!
Quote: Smokey TA "... the fact it hasnt been proved 100% by the video evidence we have seen...'" ... is just that - a fact. Thank you.
Quote: Smokey TA " doesnt mean it is without foundation,'" Yes,
it plainly does!
Quote: Smokey TA "there is clear evidence it is quite likely that the wigan players surrounding the injured player didnt allow the physio to provide treatment as quickly as he otherwise could have done, especially considering the inordinate amount of time between Mcguire's injury and the stretcher coming on.'" What evidence? There is NO evidence that a single medico was delayed in any way shape or form by any Wigan player and I suggest you pack in this silly line of false accusations as they just didn't. As for stretcher time - entirely a decision for the Wigan medical staff.
Quote: Smokey TA "FA wroteIts just your strange avoidance of simply admitting somebody said something a bit classless and a bit tasteless purely because it was a leeds player'"
You meant to sayIts just your strange avoidance of simply admitting somebody said something a bit classless and a bit tasteless, which you avoid admitting purely because it was a leeds player'"
The new "intended" meaning - that I won't admit it was tasteless etc "purely because it was a Leeds player" is just silly. My comments are considered not partisan, and would apply to any player from any club. Moreover I like and rate McGuire as a player and have nothing against him so if that is what you meant then I have no clue how you would possibly justify thinking that.
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| Quote: Saddened! "I'm thinking more along the lines of a guest referee. Hulk Hogan or Barrack Obama or Russell Crowe. Someone the players will listen to.
if they send in a fool like Smith or Thaler there will be carnage.'"
You of course could do it better , I can tell
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| Clarke's comments were a bit dumb. Every player 'cheats' whenever they think it benefits their team, and especially if they can get away with it. Has anyone ever seen a player own up to a knock on missed by the ref? Any side not had players offside when defending close to their line this year, and not get penalised? Has any player in the league not tried to milk a penalty at the PTB or deliberately delay the attacking player getting up?
I'm just not sure why there has been all this fuss about McGuire's actions in particular.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "I'm just not sure why there has been all this fuss about McGuire's actions in particular.'"
Jealousy.
Had it happened to anyone other than a Leeds player there would have been a mass outpouring of sympathy on here rather than some of the ill-directed bile that has spewed forth instead.
Had it happened to ickle Sammy T I would have expected the Pope at his hospital bedside beatifying him instead of Cardinal Newman.
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "'"
And with a single stroke, the self perceived high moral ground held by certain Leeds Rhinos fans evaporates.
Whats it like down there?
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Clarke's comments were a bit dumb. Every player 'cheats' whenever they think it benefits their team, and especially if they can get away with it. Has anyone ever seen a player own up to a knock on missed by the ref? Any side not had players offside when defending close to their line this year, and not get penalised? Has any player in the league not tried to milk a penalty at the PTB or deliberately delay the attacking player getting up?
I'm just not sure why there has been all this fuss about McGuire's actions in particular.'"
I would imagine because no one other than Leeds supporters actually like him?
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