You've lost me. Which Widnes fans are crying here, where, and why do you think it's crying about missing out on SL?

It's been a pretty constant theme for a few years.

Don't get me wrong, I want Widnes to get a franchise, they will hopefully bring a lot to the league, but there has been a constant bemoaning of the unfairness of Super League and the franchising system, when in fact franchising will prove to be your most likely route back.

Why single out Widnes fans for that though?

This is something which gets mentioned by far more fans of other clubs than it does by Widnes fans on these boards. It just seems that people like you want to blame every single post on Widnes’ licencing failure on widnes fans, when half of the time it’s fans of SL clubs arguing amongst themselves and trying to score petty points off each other.

Widnes gets mentioned by a fan of a SL club. [i‘Widnes should have got a licence and not your club’ [/ietc…

This is often followed by the fan of the other SL club slagging off Widnes.

Enter the Widnes fan to defend our honour. The next thing is, we read posts like yours blaming Widnes fans for moaning. We’ve even got Salford fans pretending to be Widnes fans to stir it even more. That’s how pathetic RL is becoming.

I don’t support licencing, but I want my club to put a bid in because it’s all that’s on offer and I fear for my club should it fail. It must be nice to look down from your ivory tower.

We'll get in Pepe dont worry. We're got too much to offer the franchise that other teams havent for them to turn us down.

Naivety of the highest order. You believe that when a club submits a licence application they are doing it for the greater good? Grow up, every club that applies is doing it for one reason and that is to secure their place at the top table. Do you honestly think Leeds or Wigan would give a toss if Halifax or Barrow got in next time at the expense of the Crusaders?

You reckon?

That's why I said it was likely that David Hughes *would* be able to find someone to take over at Harlequins, should he decide to step down.

As for £10million not being much, that is certainly true if you're putting in £1 million each year. Seems to me though that there are plenty of SL clubs who don't have millionaire owners.

Thats because one contained the word nazi and unsurprisingly people found it offensive to be compared to the nazis simply because they believed that spreading the game of rugby league was a good thing.

Its not a similar term at all, if you cant see the distinction you are a fool. Nobody would mind if you did use a similar term, people did mind when you went way way way over the top and started evoking one of the most abhorent regimes to have ever existed whilst discussing something that is relatively unimportant.

Moderation queries can be addressed to the moderators or admins. As you well know.

But FWIW, I added that word 'expansion*zi", its variants and an equally insulting word referring to supposed opponents of expansion, to the swear filter. I didn't add flatcapper, although there was a request, because 1) it's a perfectly standard English word and 2) Featherstone fans have done nothing to deserve any mention of them being banned.