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Quote: nickcat0 "I'm pleased that the NRL has such good tv ratings, but why don't more fans attend games?

AFL games in Melbourne seem to draw average crowds of over 30000, so why can't the NRL do the same in Sydney?'"


It's simple.

For many decades Rugby League clubs were almost entirely funded by the licensed Leagues club. AFL or VFL clubs relied solely on gate receipts so they spent much more time and effort on getting bums on seats than the NSWRL did. They had to because pokies were banned in Victoria until fairly recently.

Also, Sydney has never, ever had the same cultural tie to any sport than Melbourne has to AFL/VFL. In their case, it was the only Winter sport, apart from Soccer, for over 100 years. that has never, ever been the same in Sydney. Rugby Union has always had a foothold of varying size.

You don't make cultural change in one generation.

The AFL have a 40 or 50 year headstart on the NRL as far as attendances go.

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Quote: nickcat0 "Except that true fans go and support their team in the flesh.'"


So, someone who follows, for example, Liverpool FC from Australia can't be a true fan?

That is the most narrow-minded post I've read on here.

I go to every Wests Tigers game I can, as well as other games in the NRL and I don't consider myself any more a fan than the bloke who plonks his on his couch and watches 3 or 4 games per week and wears his Tigers Jersey down the street.

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Quote: EA "Only someone who isn't a Rugby League fan would ask that. Use spectator in a Sentence
See web results for spectator
See images of spectator
–noun 1. a person who looks on or watches; onlooker; observer.

Are you suggesting that the only way to watch or observe a sporting event is to attend?'"




Not suggesting anything. I simply copy and pasted the definition on the Mac's Dictionary Application.

You're attitude still seems very seppo though. You know, with us or against us. Even Rugby League fans are capable of individual thoughts you know.

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Quote: EA "
What was the Rhinos crowd average in the season just gone?

How much of their income do you think came from gate receipts?
The sporting world changed many decades ago when this bloke called John Logie Baird invented this new fangled thing called the "Television".

.'"


Depending on your crowd size not true. The WC Eagles bring in over $15mill from gate receipts and only $8mill from their share of the TV grant.

Western Force took around $7mill in gate receipts and a TV grant of $4mill.

If you can get your crowd over 20-25,000 then the income stream is a significant percentage of overall revenue.

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Quote: JB Down Under "Depending on your crowd size not true. The WC Eagles bring in over $15mill from gate receipts and only $8mill from their share of the TV grant.

Western Force took around $7mill in gate receipts and a TV grant of $4mill.

If you can get your crowd over 20-25,000 then the income stream is a significant percentage of overall revenue.'"


again with the WC Eagles.

you really are a pansy

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Quote: dally messenger "again with the WC Eagles.

you really are a pansy'"

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Quote: Rooster Booster "Not suggesting anything. I simply copy and pasted the definition on the Mac's Dictionary Application.'"


As I said to the idiot, the definitions vary.

You picked one that suits the troll's argument, I didn't.

Your loyalty is cute.

Quote: Rooster Booster "You're attitude still seems very seppo though. You know, with us or against us. Even Rugby League fans are capable of individual thoughts you know.'"


That post gave you up, you should avoid this discussion.

Actually, real debate and/or real criticism of the game and/or the NRL I'm all in favour of and I most heartily involve myself in, and always have. That I don't value the opinion of trolls and prefer to make them uncomfortable is what's confusing you.

By the way, I see you are able to use an online dictionary, look up the words "your" and "you're" next time.

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Quote: dally messenger "again with the WC Eagles.

you really are a pansy'"



and the first prize for adding nothing to a discussion goes to ...............
dallyM for the 100th time.

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Quote: JB Down Under "and the first prize for adding nothing to a discussion goes to ...............
dallyM for the 100th time.'"


i started this discussion

i was wondering how long it would take for you to mention the WCE.

next time you visit sydney, get the cabbie to take you in your WCE outfit straight to oxford st

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Quote: JB Down Under "and the first prize for adding nothing to a discussion goes to ...............
dallyM for the 100th time.'"


On the threads that you post on and Dally doesn't, he adds more to them than you do.

You are negative value.

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Quote: Serge A. Storms "

England RU will play 6-10 games a year in front of crowds >70k that excludes any major club games that is one of the reasons the players convert from RL to RU because RL simply cannot offer anything like that anywhere in the world the same goes for Australia and NZ - I don't see many top RU players converting to the greatest game either!!!'"


Have a word with yourself..... icon_rolleyes.gif
Do you think former Leeds Rhino's Star Lee Smith signed for Wasps Rugby union to play infront of "massive Union Crowds" ?

or do you think when he finds himself playing on a muddy $hithole on a freezing February afternoon in front of possibly a max capacity of 10,000 fans wooooww... he'll console himself counting his considerable rise in Salary from switching from the 1.6million pound Salary capped Rugby League to the 4 million pound salary capped english rugby union....

I lie awake at night wondering Why Johnny wilkinson is dicking around in French Rugby union with clubs with Wage bills from 12 million to 20 million quid.... I think Johnny come on lad play rugby League get yourself smashed to bits and earn 60 grand a year instead of 600,000......


oh aye its all about the crowd figures this code switching......

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Quote: EA "On the threads that you post on and Dally doesn't, he adds more to them than you do.

You are negative value.'"


FMD thats funny
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Quote: the flying biscuit "Have a word with yourself.....
mate if SL gets its act together youll pass union as a sport

SL has shown massive growth since inception and clubs like yours are what are driving it forwards, with new grounds, larger crowds etc.

union might have the establishment media behind them there, but it doesnt matter. union cant compete with league

get SL right and youll bury union, even with the 6 nations propping them up

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www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5815357617


Yet with all the money they get from TV revenue clubs still in huge debt.See not all things are rosy in the AFL eh? icon_mrgreen.gif
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 5815357617


Yet with all the money they get from TV revenue clubs still in huge debt.See not all things are rosy in the AFL eh? icon_mrgreen.gif


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Quote: EA "As I said to the idiot, the definitions vary.

You picked one that suits the troll's argument, I didn't.

Your loyalty is cute.

That post gave you up, you should avoid this discussion.

Actually, real debate and/or real criticism of the game and/or the NRL I'm all in favour of and I most heartily involve myself in, and always have. That I don't value the opinion of trolls and prefer to make them uncomfortable is what's confusing you.

By the way, I see you are able to use an online dictionary, look up the words "your" and "you're" next time.

</petty mode>'"



OK. Thanks George W.

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