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Quote: SNOT-HIM08 "leigh wouldn't of been relegated had they been allowed to play with no quota and no cap'"
good for Leigh, after 114 years that is quite the acheivement

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Quote: GetThemScallyWags "The reason why 2 clubs are looking to host games is because the Crusaders are currently without a home.'"
which is a good response to the problem is it not? that other people are seeing the potential of our game in wales and are wanting to get involved

Quote: GetThemScallyWags "The reason why another party is interested in buying the club is because it appears Samuels is threatening to pull the plug.'"
Iwe ignore the wild media speculation, again, we have gone from no-one wanting to be involved a few years ago, to another party seeing the game, and wanting to get involved, again a good thing

if Samuels were to pull the plug it would be a bad thing, but this hasnt happened
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You also fail to mention the debacle over the 6 deportees and lack of signings for next season, not to mention the wall of silence coming from the club.'"
what would you like to know? they have also just signed Matt Utai and Tommy Lee, im sure others are on their way

Quote: GetThemScallyWags "Are these really the signs of a club who are on the up and up?'"
no, nobody has said it is all smooth sailing, there are negatives and positives regarding celtics current position, they still have the potential, and in some areas have made good progress, in others poor, but it was never going to be easy

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Quote: bowes "
Wales is a country. It's not a sovereign country, but a constituent country.

[iA constituent country is a country that is part of a larger entity, such as a sovereign state or supranational body.[/i

In terms of sovereign states, yes we are a part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. But that doesn't mean Wales, England and England are not countries.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "good for Leigh, after 114 years that is quite the acheivement'"
obviously not as intelligent as i first thought, still not going to bother explaining my point to you, still reckon you wouldn't understand it appears you are a lost cause in all these so blinkerd its untrue, fortunetly time will tell

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Quote: SNOT-HIM08 "obviously not as intelligent as i first thought, still not going to bother explaining my point to you, still reckon you wouldn't understand it appears you are a lost cause in all these so blinkerd its untrue, fortunetly time will tell'"



eeerm, yes?

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Quote: bowes "

Wales is a country in it's own right and forms part of the United kingdom, it's not some annex of England whatever you would like to think. I take it your not going to answer the other part of the post?

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Quote: Traffic "Wales is a country in it's own right and forms part of the United kingdom, it's not some annex of England whatever you would like to think. I take it your not going to answer the other part of the post?'"

The other part is silly. Taking the odd game on the road can work, but it's not the same as not knowing if you're playing in Liverpool or Bristol from week to week and saying it's okay because they're both English and it's spreading the game

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Quote: bowes "The other part is silly. Taking the odd game on the road can work, but it's not the same as not knowing if you're playing in Liverpool or Bristol from week to week and saying it's okay because they're both English and it's spreading the game'"


Silly given the number of teams in England yes, but we are talking about Wales

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Quote: belgianxiii "IF Crusaders spend the next 5 years without a home then it will be a problem, yes.

IF however they spend a year away from home and play on-the-road games then that's not a bad thing. Catalans spent the end of one season playing away and have had on-the-road matches for the past few years. We think it's a good thing for French RL. Yes, we are obviously a better club than Crusaders, but that's just because we're from the south of France. I think Quins playing on the road games was good for RL and it's a shame that other clubs (Hull FC, Saints, Leeds, Bradford, Wigan) aren't able to do the same.'"


It will be if they dont make any revenue from doing so

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Quote: Starbug "It will be if they dont make any revenue from doing so'"

it would be if the players were constantly harrassed by horny chimps as well,

but its likely the club would endeavour to avoid either circumstance happening

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Quote: SmokeyTA "it would be if the players were constantly harrassed by horny chimps as well,

but its likely the club would endeavour to avoid either circumstance happening'"


They can endeavour all they want , just like anybody can endeavour to be successful , doesn't mean it will happen though

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Quote: Wellsy13 "Wales is a country. It's not a sovereign country, but a constituent country.

[iA constituent country is a country that is part of a larger entity, such as a sovereign state or supranational body.[/i

In terms of sovereign states, yes we are a part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. But that doesn't mean Wales, England and England are not countries.'"


That is the modern view but bowes is right about what he said pre-1950.

Wales back then did not exist as "country" according to the British government. Scotland and Northern Ireland existed but Wales was treated as an extension of England.

Newport and Gwent generally didn't pass into Welsh hands until 1974 prior to that it was considered to be "Monmouthshire" and part of England. I have an old 1930s map that shows it as being part of England.

Not that this has anything to do with rugby or Crusaders but it just rather illustrates the point that what is considered to be a "nation" is rather point-of-view and subject to change.

Most people don't consider Cornwall to be a nation these days but up til the 19th century it was.

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Quote: Starbug "They can endeavour all they want , just like anybody can endeavour to be successful , doesn't mean it will happen though'"
it doesnt meant it wont happen too,

in fact, and this may suprise you, actually attempting something makes you much more likely to acheive it

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Quote: Hedgehog King "That is the modern view but bowes is right about what he said pre-1950.

Wales back then did not exist as "country" according to the British government. Scotland and Northern Ireland existed but Wales was treated as an extension of England.

Newport and Gwent generally didn't pass into Welsh hands until 1974 prior to that it was considered to be "Monmouthshire" and part of England. I have an old 1930s map that shows it as being part of England.

Not that this has anything to do with rugby or Crusaders but it just rather illustrates the point that what is considered to be a "nation" is rather point-of-view and subject to change.

Most people don't consider Cornwall to be a nation these days but up til the 19th century it was.'"


I'm fro Newport and consider myself Welsh. I wasn't born in the 1930's so shove your map.

What has this got to do with anything anyway? Crusaders are in Super League and here to stay.

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Quote: crucrucrusaders "I'm fro Newport and consider myself Welsh. I wasn't born in the 1930's so shove your map.

What has this got to do with anything anyway? Crusaders are in Super League and here to stay.'"


Lets hope so.

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