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Quote: Marsdengiant "You and certain fellow posters don't get it.

You keep pretending that it is about some people having sex. It isn't.

Of course Johns has devastated his wife / kids / family by his sordid behaviour. he admits that.

What you fail to understand, probably because you have never had a senior managerial role in an organisation, is that businesses value their reputations and increasingly have a focus on social responsibility. They are free to choose NOT to employ a person who wants to take part in group sex infront of 12 other people.

However i am sure there are adult channels that dally messenger could list that would welcome Johns as a front man. He could even recreate famous RL gang bangs and entertain the knuckle draggers on here and elsewhere.

It has clearly come as a shock to some of the less evolved RL fans that many organisations and people will not admire, condone or employ gang bangers.'"



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have you busted any married men cheating on their wives lately mate?

johns bonked a girl well before his current emplyoment.

so you condone someone losing his job for something which is legal, was voluntary and well before he was employed with channel 9 ?

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Quote: Boris "'Ended up'.

She ended up there out of her own free will.'"


I only saw what was said on the documentary, but she concented to go in a room with 2 men, not a full rugby team!
But like I mentioned before, whether it was consensual or not, this sort of behaviour shows a complete lack of respect for women.

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You keep prattling on about the married man bit. Only you know why you have such a fixation. This element shows johns had a callous disreguard for the feelings of his wife. So callous that he does it front of 12+ 'co workers' who will meet his wife at club events. Johns knows this is sordid. you cannot figure it out.

As for your last point. Many organisations would terminate the contract of an employee who's behaviour - past or present - is inconsistent with the values of the business and / or bring the organisation into disrepute. You find thisdifficult to comprehend because in your little world gang banging infront of 12 people is mainstream heterosexual activity. Poor little matty and dally - you will have to live with it...tough icon_lol.gif

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Quote: dally messenger "

Something no half back will ever make 30 times in a gameicon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Marsdengiant "You keep prattling on about the married man bit. Only you know why you have such a fixation. This element shows johns had a callous disreguard for the feelings of his wife. So callous that he does it front of 12+ 'co workers' who will meet his wife at club events. Johns knows this is sordid. you cannot figure it out.

As for your last point. Many organisations would terminate the contract of an employee who's behaviour - past or present - is inconsistent with the values of the business and / or bring the organisation into disrepute. You find thisdifficult to comprehend because in your little world gang banging infront of 12 people is mainstream heterosexual activity. Poor little matty and dally - you will have to live with it...tough
Dally cannot comprehend simple logic - you are wasting your time on an individual who thinks this kind of activity is Ok - sadly for him it will only ever be a fantasy.

One thing is for sure if Matthew Johns had kept his d1ck to himself he would still be presenting the footy show - that is the simple fact - the pity is this simple fact is beyond the comprehension of the Aussie men on this forum. Trying to explain the corporate responsibility is so far over their head as be akin to advance maths to us. icon_biggrin.gif

Anyone who has spent time in Sydney know the majority

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Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "Dally cannot comprehend simple logic - you are wasting your time on an individual who thinks this kind of activity is Ok - sadly for him it will only ever be a fantasy.

One thing is for sure if Matthew Johns had kept his d1ck to himself he would still be presenting the footy show - that is the simple fact - the pity is this simple fact is beyond the comprehension of the Aussie men on this forum. Trying to explain the corporate responsibility is so far over their head as be akin to advance maths to us.
im sure you keep your di*k to yourself, but not through choice

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I wonder what Dick tracy would say about all this . icon_lol.gif

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Quote: airliebird58 "I only saw what was said on the documentary, but she concented to go in a room with 2 men, not a full rugby team!
But like I mentioned before, whether it was consensual or not, this sort of behaviour shows a complete lack of respect for women.'"


If you only watched that show then i dont blame you if are totally in favour of the girl and think Johns should have been sacked, etc... However one-sided is all i can think of after watching that interview.

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Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "Something no half back will ever make 30 times in a gametell andrew johns that . the greatest halfback icon_surprised.gifops: icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: airliebird58 "I only saw what was said on the documentary, but she concented to go in a room with 2 men, not a full rugby team!
But like I mentioned before, whether it was consensual or not, this sort of behaviour shows a complete lack of respect for women.'"


and I suppose the women involved in this kind of thing are not showing a complete lack of respect for men!!!!.

Why do the human race have such a problem with SEX!!!!

It's fun, it's great, it's probably one of the best things you can do.

It's a natural thing just like going to the loo and breathing!

Are we going to condemn people for example for " waiting with baited breath!!"

Farting?

drinking?

Eating?

or shall we have a go at all the selfish narrow minded people who insist on dying!!!!

Get a grip on reality people.

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on the sunday roast today the boys made a great comment :

they said if matty johns had gone out and intentionally killed someone he wouldve been treated better by the media than he has in the past week

joey looked quite upset on the footy show as well.

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Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "Something no half back will ever make 30 times in a game

Andrew Johns was one of the best tacklers in the game.

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Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "I have no problems with Johns doing exactly what he wants - what I cannot accept is all this - "he is being treated unfairly rubbish" - Johns knew exactly what he was getting in to and the potential reprocussions on his career if it came out - he simply got his cummupence
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He was not even employed by Channel 9 at the time but by the Sharks. So yes, I do think he is being harshly treated for being fired from his job for behaving in a totally legal fashion prior to his present employment.


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If you don't think their relationship is damaged beyond repair then you are nieve - if your wife - if you have one - did this to you would you just shrug your shoulders and go ok no probs - I doubt it.'"


That is between him and his wife. Not for me, or for you, to decide.

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Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "This is way beyond Dally's comprehension - let's face it he thinks you cannot have fun as a married man unless you are are having extra marital sex - that says everything you need to know about him.

If Johns had just had a normal affair he would still probably have his job - the fact he - a married man with children - participated/instigated DP with a group of other players watching brings into question his whole moral compass - is that the behaviour you would expect from a senior member of a reputable organisation - in these circumstance most senior people would be quietly asked to find alternative employment'"


Again though you are confusing your own morals with the legal situation. Johns did nothing illegal. You believe his 'moral compass' is totally skewed because he partook in group sex. This is clearly based on YOUR understanding that sex should not take place in groups, especially not with indivduals who are married.

Clearly the guy was drunk, had some tart throw herself at him, and he decided to take her back to the rugby lads for all to see! Now, this is obviously a little of the weird side (in my opinion). However, it is not illegal. If someone wishes to do this, then fine. Moreover, it is not something to sack someone over.

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Quote: Marsdengiant "You keep prattling on about the married man bit. Only you know why you have such a fixation. This element shows johns had a callous disreguard for the feelings of his wife. So callous that he does it front of 12+ 'co workers' who will meet his wife at club events. Johns knows this is sordid. you cannot figure it out.

As for your last point. Many organisations would terminate the contract of an employee who's behaviour - past or present - is inconsistent with the values of the business and / or bring the organisation into disrepute. You find thisdifficult to comprehend because in your little world gang banging infront of 12 people is mainstream heterosexual activity. Poor little matty and dally - you will have to live with it...tough
But since when have employees decided on what they believe is consistent with their 'values' vis-a-vis legal sexual behaviour? If a player was fired for being homosexual, as it was not consistent with the 'values' of the said club. one could only imagine the up roar by the moral police on here!

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