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Even so, surely to share a nickname with one of the biggest and most successful sporting organisations in the world isn't such a bad thing?

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Quote: Wellsy13 "My point still has been missed. It'snot about who are the original Red Devils or not. You don't seem to be able to understand that. It's not about fans that are "worth their salt" either. There are very very few fans that know a lot about the history of the clubs they support. Clubs aren't trying to attract fans that are "worth their salt" because they don't need to. If they were worth their salt they would already be fans. It's about awareness for people that don't have a clue about RL or Salford. It's about attracting them to the club. And then it's about making them worth their salt.

My point is, by sharing the same nickname as a sporting club that is MUCH MUCH bigger (and that still doesn't descrive how big Man Utd are compared to Salford!). It doesn't matter who got it first, the fact is it is Red Devils means "Man Utd" to a hell of a lot more people in that area than it does "Salford", and trying to tell anyone "not worth their salt" that Salford are the original Red Devils won't make a jot of difference no matter how right it is.'"


Righto, then, we'll just forget about being the Red Devils and ignore such a hugely important and vital part of our history, just because of MUFC.

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Quote: 'Hitman' Norvern Soul "Even so, surely to share a nickname with one of the biggest and most successful sporting organisations in the world isn't such a bad thing?'"


Not saying it is or it isn't, but would be interested to know why you think that?

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Quote: GT "Righto, then, we'll just forget about being the Red Devils and ignore such a hugely important and vital part of our history, just because of MUFC.'"


Who said anything about forgetting your past? That is a complete over-reaction to something you're not happy to hear.

My question to you is will being known as the "Red Devils" or the "Reds" in an area where there are two of the biggest sports teams in the world with the same nicknames help increase your clubs awareness to the public?

And if not, what value do you put on awareness to the progress of your club?

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Quote: Wellsy13 "My question to you is will being known as the "Red Devils" or the "Reds" in an area where there are two of the biggest sports teams in the world with the same nicknames help increase your clubs awareness to the public?

And if not, what value do you put on awareness to the progress of your club?'"


It'd take more than a nickname to increase the public's awareness of Salford RLFC and, indeed, attendances. I do value the progress of our club, if Salford don't progress over the next few years we're knackered. Big time. But suggesting that keeping Red Devils as our nickname would be part of the problem is ridiculous. In fact, if marketed properly, the tag "Original Red Devils" could be a pretty big draw and make people sit up and take notice.

Although, to be perfectly honest, people are aware of Salford, that's not the problem. The problem is we can't tempt anyone to get off their a[i[size.[/size[/irses and come to the games. And it's got nothing to do with the Red Devils moniker.

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Quote: GT "It'd take more than a nickname to increase the public's awareness of Salford RLFC and, indeed, attendances. I do value the progress of our club, if Salford don't progress over the next few years we're knackered. Big time. But suggesting that keeping Red Devils as our nickname would be part of the problem is ridiculous. In fact, if marketed properly, the tag "Original Red Devils" could be a pretty big draw and make people sit up and take notice.

Although, to be perfectly honest, people are aware of Salford, that's not the problem. The problem is we can't tempt anyone to get off their s and come to the games. And it's got nothing to do with the Red Devils moniker.'"


I don't think it is ridiculous to suggest it is [ipart[/i of the problem at all. It would be ridiculous to suggest it IS the problem, because it clearly isn't. The lack of a distinctive and recognisable name that makes people think of Salford rather than someone else could be a factor in why many people may not be aware of them or even be attracted to them. It could even be putting some people off (i.e. people that don't like Man Utd).

Like I've said, Salford's problem isn't their name (they have many!). But it could be part of it.

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Quote: Starbug "We were asked if we wanted another name , most said we wanted just Leigh RLFC as it used to be , if we did have to have a name then we might as well stick to what we have [ as bad as it is ] as it was relevant at the time as we took up the name on our 100 th birthday as a club and many juniors '"

Oh dear, Steve. Oh dear, oh dear. Are you sure you don't want to review this before it becomes public knowledge at the game tomorrow? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Wellsy13 "You're being overly defensive which is why you are suggesting ridiculous alternatives instead of rationale ones in trying to put your point across. You are still clearly missing my point, but I will discuss yours in relation to my point to see if it helps.

To be fair, changing your name to Salford Meerkats and playing in pink and green would probably get you a fair bit of awareness! Probably more so than Salford Reds, playing in red in a football mad area where two of the world's biggest sports teams play in red (one being called the Reds and the other being the Red Devils).

However, I can see the point you are trying to make, but it still doesn't go against the point I'm trying to make. Everyone is aware of the BNP, but would you want to join them? You've got to make people aware, but you've also got to make sure you offer them something attractive that they want to be part of (the other parts of the model I discussed). Would Salford Meerkats playing in pink and green appeal to people and make them want to be a part of it? I'd guess you think not. Ridiclous kits didn't do too bad for Stade Francais though, did it!
I see what you're trying to say, but our club's nickname and colours are still not part of the problem. The fact that RL is not fashionable in these parts, we play in a very old stadium and the team is far from successful - coupled with the fact that we've got, currently, the best football team in the world just over the border - are the problems we face.

We had a free ticket scheme that was run at various games last season - we got over 6,000 in for the derby against Swinton. If we can pull something like that off again a few times this year, coupled with improvement on and off the pitch, then the appeal of the club will grow. Changing the club's name and colours and practically forgetting the club's history will not.

In fact, in my opinion if marketed properly "the original Red Devils" could be a superb selling point. If more and more people became aware of where the name came from and that United took it from Salford, then it'd raise our profile more than any other name could.

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