Yes!!! Smith out!!

For large parts of our games we didn't seem to have a clue, never mind a plan

I can see the reasons for Smith to go but who to replace him? Cullen?

Exactly we were clueless, on the other threads the saints players are taking a hammering, but these players play to game plans, use decoy runners, switch direction of play, use a second wave of attack, run complicated angles.

We didn,y see any of this from the england side, its as though the english side were playing "flat school boy rugby" so whose fault is that...Tony Smith

Indeed, what happened to all those years of success we had before Tony Smith was coach...

No offence to the guy but I just cannot see how he can stay on after such an abysmal performance.

Yes its true we don't have the quality players but we were expected to compete in the forwards of other teams and we simply haven't.

The biggest problems for me with Smith are three things.

1. In an interview on TV after the first NZ game he gave a politicians answer instead of coming clean and saying that we had played rubbish so far. His comments displayed a lack of blunt honesty about the performances.

2. Squad selection. We didn't take enough Prop Forwards and this was always going to bite us.

3. Team selections and substitutions. He has failed miserably by chopping and changing the team. His choice of players for certain matches was bizzarre. Why didn't he always play with two hookers with one coming off the bench. Why did he drop Lee Smith for the last game instead of putting him on the wing?

Try writing that again, are you the Judder man or the Jibberish man?

O the unintelligent one, you are not Tony Smith,s assistant are you.

So what was it exactly that you were trying to say?

You're his mum. No one else could possibly see merit in him.

Brian Smith's brother is nothing but a mumbling, whinging, loser clown.

What the hell he was doing in England winning a SL title is beyond me.

Daniel Anderson named new Parramatta Eels coach. that leaves smith where he is . Anderson was an assistant to coach Brian Smith at Parramatta in 2000 after leading the reserve grade team to the 1999 premiership. "I have a long history with the Parramatta club and I consider it a real privilege to be given the opportunity to coach the team over the next three years,'' Anderson said. "I started my coaching career here back in 1991 and it's long been a goal of mine to return. I'm a Parramatta boy, I grew up here and, apart from the last eight years, I've spent my life here. "Needless to day I'm incredibly enthusiastic about the opportunity that I have been given and I look forward to helping the team and the club rise up the ladder.'' www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s ... 66,00.html

Daniel Anderson named new Parramatta Eels coach. that leaves smith where he is . Anderson was an assistant to coach Brian Smith at Parramatta in 2000 after leading the reserve grade team to the 1999 premiership. "I have a long history with the Parramatta club and I consider it a real privilege to be given the opportunity to coach the team over the next three years,'' Anderson said. "I started my coaching career here back in 1991 and it's long been a goal of mine to return. I'm a Parramatta boy, I grew up here and, apart from the last eight years, I've spent my life here. "Needless to day I'm incredibly enthusiastic about the opportunity that I have been given and I look forward to helping the team and the club rise up the ladder.'' www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s ... 66,00.html

Not aggresive enough
no attacking game plan

defense patterns were schoolboy level

Not sure if it is Smith, the players or the dire coaching of juniors in England but somebody needs to shoulder some blame. By far and away the worse tournament display by any Eng/GB team in living memory.

That was the most depressing bit, for me.

Forget Australia, they're better than everyone by a mile for a number of reasons, but the NZ team that beat us was crap. When we lost, it just as much of case of how we were worse than them rather then them being better than us.

The majority of the NZ team would turn out to be the sort of very average SL signings they people decry for needlesly blocking young british talent.

Either Leeds or Saints would have trashed that Kiwi side. They're teams based around English players (who made up the majority of the Englnd team), so we've got some serious issues, especially when the line of defense is so woeful.

This is what we all are thinking, Leeds and Saints would have had in attack decoy runners, switch of play, 2nd attack phase, chip kicks over the defensive line. In defense Leeds and Saints would be more aggressive, quicker onto the offensive line, covering out wide.
We didn,t see any of this in the England side, in most instances the players didn,t know what to do next in both offence and defence. There was also no one in authority on the field to organise any plays thats if they had any.