Ford is a very structured coach like Powell or Kear - unfortunately when the plan doesn't work there is no plan b because the players are allowed to deviate from the plan. Powell has never won a final and 2017 was a glaring example of what happens when the coach's plan is worked out. Yesterday was the same Ford had a plan 5 drives kick deep hope for a mistake - when Fev went in from early in the second half York didn't have a plan b.

I'd recheck that 'fact'.

You certain it needs checking?

Yes.

I can't find any mention of him winning a final?

You need to try a bit harder then, although it shouldn't really be that hard. I'll even give you a clue - try researching 2011.

I don't think the mickey mouse cup against Sheffield counts.

So just the 3 top level finals count ? (1 from 15 years ago) 1 where the club were steady underdogs after reaching their first top level final in 22 years and 1 which we did blow (hindered massively by best player exiting stage left 48 hours before final )

Which top level finals has he won?

Featherstone will struggle next year when they can’t call upon half the Leeds team every week

Never said he had, he's only coached in 3 at the top level . But I don't get why the championship finals shouldn't count ? Granted still not a great conversion rate but how many finals have Cas and fev made in the 90s 00s 2010s without DP.

Not many.

so, he hasn't won a major final, glad we cleared that up.

Leeds will continue to dual reg with Fev IMO.

But the original statement picked up on and countered didn't use the phrases 'top level' or 'major' which have subsequently been included and so was in fact correct.

Not when they are running a reserve side