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| This is simply a move by Barba to force the NRLs hand - they're making the rules up as they go along. The Sharks tried to register Barbas contract a couple of months ago, enabling him to get back training and for his ban to begin at the start of the season, but the NRL have not registered it yet and have given no reason why - they're not following the same process and timelines that have previously existed for player registrations - Jarryd Hayne for instance left Rugby Union 7s, signed with the Titans (interestingly after the NRLs own signings deadline of 30th June) and made his debut all in the 1 week period.
The Sharks have been quite clever and used this situation to their advantage - they terminated Barbas contract when it all came out and have now months later after a stint in rehab subsequently signed him to a longer deal at a lower annual value. The NRL power brokers don't like that the Sharks have got one over them so are making it as difficult as possible. All the time though, whilst Barba has no registered contract, he ain't getting paid - and I don't know many people who could afford to go 4 months without pay.
As with the Andrew Fifita case, the NRL have handed down an official punishment that is within their guidelines, but are then being deliberately awkward to try and make the punishment more severe. I'd guess if they were challenged legally, they might be in bother for not following due process - a bit like the Sharks are with Todd Carney.
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| Apparently it's a long deal.
I can remember when he left Bulldigs due to homesickness, he's gonna love France.
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| Quote Superted="Superted"This is simply a move by Barba to force the NRLs hand - they're making the rules up as they go along. The Sharks tried to register Barbas contract a couple of months ago, enabling him to get back training and for his ban to begin at the start of the season, but the NRL have not registered it yet and have given no reason why - they're not following the same process and timelines that have previously existed for player registrations - Jarryd Hayne for instance left Rugby Union 7s, signed with the Titans (interestingly after the NRLs own signings deadline of 30th June) and made his debut all in the 1 week period.
The Sharks have been quite clever and used this situation to their advantage - they terminated Barbas contract when it all came out and have now months later after a stint in rehab subsequently signed him to a longer deal at a lower annual value. The NRL power brokers don't like that the Sharks have got one over them so are making it as difficult as possible. All the time though, whilst Barba has no registered contract, he ain't getting paid - and I don't know many people who could afford to go 4 months without pay.
As with the Andrew Fifita case, the NRL have handed down an official punishment that is within their guidelines, but are then being deliberately awkward to try and make the punishment more severe. I'd guess if they were challenged legally, they might be in bother for not following due process - a bit like the Sharks are with Todd Carney.'"
when you get disciplined or sacked by the nrl there's a process to get back in. Barba hasn't completed (or started) his, hayne didn't get sacked and fifita is a ing mainiac who isn't fit to play rep footy.
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| Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong or missed something.
Gareth Hock was banned for 2 years for cocaine (as I remember it)
How has he managed to get a 12 match ban let alone be allowed to play Union
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| Quote Zulu01="Zulu01"Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong or missed something.
Gareth Hock was banned for 2 years for cocaine (as I remember it)
How has he managed to get a 12 match ban let alone be allowed to play Union'"
Different continents, different governing bodies, different application of rules and penalties.
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| Quote Zulu01="Zulu01"Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong or missed something.
Gareth Hock was banned for 2 years for cocaine (as I remember it)
How has he managed to get a 12 match ban let alone be allowed to play Union'"
Oh dear here we go again another Wigan fan whinging when their cheating got caught out.
Simply put. Hock failed a match day sample. Cocaine is a stimulant and therefore a performance enhancer which it is why its on the banned list like other stimulants (amphetamines for example). Having it swilling around in your system in a match day is therefore cheating and Hock got exactly what he deserved.
Cocaine does not provide long term performance enhancement like steroids and does therefore not attract a ban for that reason if it is found in an out of competition sample. Its use is of course a social and possible criminal issue which is why a particular sports governing body may take a dim view of its use and impose their own sanctions.
Barba's sample was taken out of competition so it is up to the governing body alone to deal with it.
To summarise
Hock - idiot and cheat
Barba - idiot only
French RU - lying bunch of hypocritical fascists
Nothing most people didn't know already.
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| Quote Erik the not red="Erik the not red"Oh dear here we go again another Wigan fan whinging when their cheating got caught out.
Simply put. Hock failed a match day sample. Cocaine is a stimulant and therefore a performance enhancer which it is why its on the banned list like other stimulants (amphetamines for example). Having it swilling around in your system in a match day is therefore cheating and Hock got exactly what he deserved.
Cocaine does not provide long term performance enhancement like steroids and does therefore not attract a ban for that reason if it is found in an out of competition sample. Its use is of course a social and possible criminal issue which is why a particular sports governing body may take a dim view of its use and impose their own sanctions.
Barba's sample was taken out of competition so it is up to the governing body alone to deal with it.
To summarise
Hock - idiot and cheat
Barba - idiot only
French RU - lying bunch of hypocritical fascists
Nothing most people didn't know already.'"
Thanx Erik
Like I did say its what I remembered (Didnt go and study the why's and wherefores)
As for being a Wigan fan - wrong, you've more chance of platting fog than me ever supporting Wigan
Again thanx for input - Loved your summmery
Regards
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| Quote Zulu01="Zulu01"
As for being a Wigan fan - wrong, you've more chance of platting fog than me ever supporting Wigan
Again thanx for input - Loved your summmery
Regards'"
My sincere apologies to you for the the Wigan slur - a genuine mistake on my part.
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| Quote Erik the not red="Erik the not red"My sincere apologies to you for the the Wigan slur - a genuine mistake on my part.'"
Nahh no worries Erik, you did fully explain the situation and thanx for that
Have a good season - hopefully not as good as ours
Cheers 
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union showing once again it has less morals than a alley cat.
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union showing once again it has less morals than a alley cat.
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| Does this give us any hints regarding the Cas/Solomona legal battle?..
If a ban in RL doesnt mean anything in RU, then is it the same for a contract?..
My guess is no, but just throwing it out there
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