Its how you spend the cap that counts. The Dr has stated Salford are up to cap. Wigan have stated they arn't, yet they've got the double. Spend it more wisely.

They have them and didn't want to lose them - surely we should tie down the few we have before chasing anyone else.

Tell me, if signing Matty Bowen, lance hohaia, josh perry, Anthony laffranchi, Trent Barrett, Jamie Lyon, Trent Waterhouse, Joel Monaghan, Andrew Johns (albeit briefly) Steve Menzies, Stacy jones, tony Carroll, Luke patten and a load more I can't be bothered to remember has raised the game to the point it has - why would Salford (who is ultimately the only team who would conceivably use the rule) signing billy slater make one Iotas of difference?

Raising the profile of the game take sustained, achievable targets and growth, not throwing money at players.

Wayne Rooney doesn't get paid £300,000 a week to attract fans, he gets paid £300,000 a week because the club attracted the fans and can therefore afford to pay him.

Wigan won the double with Tomkins, Hansen, Richards and Mossop in their team so that would of taken them
Upto the cap and in Tomkins case over it with his sky sports sponsorship.

They won't win the double with the team they have now.

Strange one this. If a salary cap exemption is to be introduced, surely this would have resulted in a better TV deal due to the added attraction of any marquee signings?

What English marquee players do we have now then that will attract NRL and Union clubs to come poaching?

And United have Rooney to keep their quality up by doing this that's how they attract the fans.

Look at Man City now getting 47000 average crowds from and average of around 29/30k they won the premier league currently playing some fantastic football and In the process of building one of the worlds biggest footballing academies, now you tell me if the FA were like the RFL and stopped that club spending money to catch the big teams up do you really think they'd be achieving financially and crowd wise what they do now?

Fact is the RFL are holding the sport back by capping everything simple as that.

Probably would have but the RFL as usual jumped the gun.

There are long lists on other threads about who would conceivably be looked at by Aussie clubs, Watkins, briscoe, hall, lomax, Percival (give it a few years) walmsley, currie, charnley, oloughlin mciclorum to name a few at a few clubs have been mentioned in dispatches before.

So man city saw a 17k increase on a 600k per week increase of their wages? That doesn't sound a great rate of return! In fact, that would kill our game faster than the early 90s!

And it's actually eufa who stop clubs spending so more (or rather losing so much, with debt management rules)

Okay. If you say so. It's all the rfls fault. How dare the rfl make all the other clubs vote against bringing in a marquee signing rule. Wait ...

But man city arnt paying the wages Sheik Mansour is, the thing is that eventually City will be self sufficient will everything there putting in place, you don't really think Man Utd would be as huge with out having anyone to hold them back spending money, iam a Man united supporter myself and used to have a season ticket at old Trafford since the early 90s I saw with my own two eyes how we did it, buy the best players shot us up the league we eventually won the league then with the already championship winning squad we could then Go and scout and develop players by drip feeding them into a champion team, you tell me how a team like Wakefield could bring on a academy product as good as Leeds can, Leeds can give their youngsters the chance to learn off the best and grow into the team Wakefield don't have the champion side to give a young player that experience, Leeds were up at the top before the salary cap, so were Wigan so were Saints.

Man utd had the structure and fan base in place to buy the players - trying to do it the other way round leads to Leeds utd.

So Wakefield should invest in their youth systems, develop players to help them rise up the league, whilst contributing to the international pool. Grows the game, and makes them more competitive - no need for a marquee rule.

And your a man utd fan and I have to mention class of 92? Seriously?

Forgot to say, success doesn't grow successful youth systems, successful youth systems grow success.

Whilst I have no problem with people debating the rights and wrongs of the Doc, your point is completely ridiculous. That's your point about Wigan the double, not it's how you spend the cap?

London spent up to the cap a few years ago, and they were still garbage. The fact is, to build a team you need to pay higher wages, and try as Noble may claim there is no way he would get the players he wanted without a financial incentive.

If Wigan hadn't gained dispensation for Tomkins, they would have been severely weekender by his loss or the loss of other squad members. So they didn't win double by staying within the cap.

Finally, their halves are pretty gash, Matty Smith and Blake Green are both capable of producing the odd bit quality, but are very inconsistent.

Finally you need the right environment to nurture young talent, I would imagine to doc is currently putting that into place, since that was one his stated objectives. Once those young players have been brought through the development systems, it initially gives that club cheaper players.

The new rule regarding home grown players only counting for £100,000 on the salary cap is testimony to the fact heatherington, McManus and Lenegan merely wish to maintain the current status quo.

Class of 92 wouldn't have happened if there was the class off 93 championship winning team.

So big name signings would of got in the way of some of the greatest talent to come through British football. Cool glad we got that sorted.

Develop the talent, and the joy will come

All well and good saying that, but sadly any decent young players currently produced by the 'smaller' clubs just end up getting poached by the big guns.

Salford are looking at alot of youngsters fromSaints/Wigan traditional scouting areas now.
This can only be a good thing.