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| Quote: vastman "The ones that don't suit you usually are - you're a total ar*e
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| There was no logical reason other than a money grabbing opportunity from the other clubs. It was a stupid, counter productive thing to do, that was only ever supported by bitter and idiotic fans.
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| I hope the Broncos are rescued.
If they go into admin then whoever buys the club will have it debt free.
The 6 points deducted might be overcome if they have players in on loan and a few signings.
Sounds like negotiations are nearing conclusion about a new ground and hopefully it will be finalised shortly.
Don't see the point of taking half the SKY money off them and I didn't see what it achieved at Bradford.
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| I may be wrong on this, but wasn't the Bradford money thing suggested by the club in return for them being allowed to stay in the competition?
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| Which NRL players are still without a contract?
As of now London could buyFBCEHBPR:
Petero Civinoceva (if his wife will let him come out of retirement)
The club would still need 2 halves, 2 hookers, 2 props, and 2 backrowers.
Any ideas?
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "A 6 point deduction and half of their money from Sky split between the rest of the league seems to be the precedent that's been set'"
1. Not in administration yet......they have filed and then extended their intention to....it is hoped that they won't have to. As for the money...that was Bradford's suggestion as a sweetener to remain in SL.
2. Dissolved any more holding company's in Bradford recently?
3. Do Bradford's new owners owe OK 900k or have they slipped administration in through the back door?
4. Has Ryan Whitcut opened a new bar yet?
Quote: roofaldo2 "I hope the Broncos are rescued.'" they need more than rescued....
Quote: roofaldo2 "If they go into admin then whoever buys the club will have it debt free.'"
If they go into admin, nobody will want them if they start 2014 with the threat of relegation and -6 points...
Quote: roofaldo2 "The 6 points deducted might be overcome if they have players in on loan and a few signings. '"
Admin Sounds like negotiations are nearing conclusion about a new ground and hopefully it will be finalised shortly.'"
We were promised answers last September 12 months...don't hold your breath!
Quote: roofaldo2 "Don't see the point of taking half the SKY money off them and I didn't see what it achieved at Bradford.'"
It was a voluntary option proposed to ensure Bradford stayed in SL.....it will make little difference to London as they have SFA money anyway.
I suspect the howls of "unfair" will be deafening from the heartland corridor before this saga is completed.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "There was no logical reason other than a money grabbing opportunity from the other clubs. It was a stupid, counter productive thing to do, that was only ever supported by bitter and idiotic fans.'"
I concur, the logic of financially punishing a club IN financial difficulty is strange
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Which NRL players are still without a contract?
As of now London could buyFBCEHBPR
Wait and see. There are also players who have NRL contracts who have get out clauses, others are on the fringe and would be released from their existing ones. But you know that. Don't you?
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| Quote: Starbug "I concur, the logic of financially punishing a club IN financial difficulty is strange'"
Strange is an understatement. Its among the most stupid things any sports governing body have done ever.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Strange is an understatement. Its among the most stupid things any sports governing body have done ever.'"
It's what happens when you run with too much discretion and too few rules - nobody knows where they stand and you get weird compromises and fudges.
Bradford feel hard done to and at the same time much of the rest of the RL feels they've been very generously treated.
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| TBH, the technical details are boring in the great scheme of things - all that I'm really interested in is who, if anyone, has a clue how to make RL in the capital interesting and successful. Otherwise, what are we actually rescuing and why? Just to repeat the same depressing story all over again? To copy verbatim from what I wrote in another thread (and which isn't of course an original idea at all) - the only thing worth trying IMO is the followingSince you mention London, I'd let them have no cap and sign as many Aussies as they like and call it London Australians. (c.f. London Irish, etc in the other code). Let NRL clubs send players to them on loan too. Then help Skolars grow organically with a load of financial support to eventually become London, er, 'Londoners' I suppose. Then in about 5 or 10 years we might even have a 'London' derby
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| Quote: Mild Rover "It's what happens when you run with too much discretion and too few rules - nobody knows where they stand and you get weird compromises and fudges.
Bradford feel hard done to and at the same time much of the rest of the RL feels they've been very generously treated.'"
There seems to be a misunderstanding.
Most Bradford fans, whilst clearly not exactly 'happy', are generally ready to accept the loss of money as the price for SL membership, but it's the fact that the money was shared amongst the other clubs which grates. It could have gone to support the amateur game or maybe junior rugby - it could even have been have been given to a club like London who might have more need of it, but no - like a pack of scavenging hyenas they divvied it up between themselves.
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| TBF not all SL clubs voted to divvy up the money between themselves. How did London vote?
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "How the rfl chose to spend the money of the loan is their business is it not? If it is to try and help other clubs not suffer a similar fate who are Bradford to argue?'"
But the RFL presumably had no say in it as we are constantly being told that Sky money belongs to the SL member clubs and they decide how it is distributed.
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| Quote: Bulliac "There seems to be a misunderstanding.
Most Bradford fans, whilst clearly not exactly 'happy', are generally ready to accept the loss of money as the price for SL membership, but it's the fact that the money was shared amongst the other clubs which grates. It could have gone to support the amateur game or maybe junior rugby - it could even have been have been given to a club like London who might have more need of it, but no - like a pack of scavenging hyenas they divvied it up between themselves.'"
A reasonable point.
However, hyenas need to eat and due to a lack of strong governance and clear rules, there is a grab what you can, devil take the hindmost culture. It isn't pleasant, but it is understandable.
I've always assumed (based on very little evidence, admittedly), that it was an attempt to indirectly recover oldco debt from the newco - which SL clubs (assuming they were creditors) were uniquely placed to do. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me (though I'd be pretty deeply unhappy if I were another creditor). If it is purely a 'punishment', then I agree, putting it in to the grassroots would have been much better.
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