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| Is it possible to bring Crabtree into the England squad or not? Regardless of whether he would or not
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| Quote: Worlds Apart "if Burgess is suspended, I'd start Ferres alongside Westwood and bring Carl Ablett onto the bench.'"
Like yesterday then?
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| Sinfield is still the biggest liability IMO.
He is not a half back for a start.
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| It would seem that those in the NRL disagree.
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| With Sam Burgess
1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Cudjoe
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Chase
8. G Burgess
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Westwood
12. Sam Burgess/Ferres
13. Sinfield
14. O'Loughlin
15. Hill
16. Ferres/Farrell
17. Burrow
If no Sam Burgess then Ferres starting with Farrell on bench.
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Sinfield is still the biggest liability IMO.
He is not a half back for a start.'"
Change the record, its getting boring.
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| Sinfield did alright yesterday. He just went about his business with little fuss but the balance is right in that half back pairing unless Chase decides to start testing the line more.
What a waste of a bench spot having Widdop on there is as well. Get Rob Burrow in to add some impact.
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| 1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Cudjoe
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Sinfield
8. Hill
9. Roby
10. G Burgess
11. Ferres
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin - on the basis S Burgess out
14. Burrow/McIlorum
15. Graham
16. T Burgess
17. Ablett/Farrell
I don't see the point in changing the starting front row from yesterday, as they started superbly. Graham can come on and do big mins.
I'd try Widdop for this match, then make the decision of who to go with for the rest of the tournament.
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| Tomkins
Charnley/Briscoe
Watkins
Cudjoe
Hall
Widdop
Sinfield
Hill
Roby
G Burgess
Ferres
Westwood
O'Loughlin
McIlorum
Ablett
Graham
Mossop
I'm forgiving a couple of poor performances, could easily have Farrell in for Ablett and both Mossop or T Burgess would be lucky to keep their places. Would like to see Widdop being given more of a run, it's a waste of a bench space.
I'm also assuming Sam will be banned.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Chase can't be involved again IMO. He isn't offering enough and looks out if his depth.
Its a different thing picking a team I want to what it actually will be. I'd move Tomkins up to 6 and put Hardaker in at 1 but it won't happen. If it was up to me I'd go-
Hardaker
Charnley
Watkins
Cudjoe
Hall
Tomkins
Sinfield
G Burgess
Roby
Hill
Ferres
Burgess
O'Loughlin
Subs
Graham
Westwood
Farrell
Burrow
That teams our best hope of winning the competition IMO but I don't expect to see it anytime soon.'"
100% spot on for me.
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| I agree, Sinfield did okay yesterday, better than Chase anyway.
Why people want to put a full back at 6 when he's not played there in years and Sinfield at Loose Forward when he's not played there in years I can't understand.
The World Cup has started, this isn't the time to start chopping the team around and playing players out of position.
I'd bring O'Loughlin in for the probably banned Sam Burgess and Graham in for one of Tom Burgess or Mossop and then bring Sam Burgess in for the Fiji game.
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| Quote: jonny the leyther "I agree, Sinfield did okay yesterday, better than Chase anyway.
Why people want to put a full back at 6 when he's not played there in years'"
My rationale is simple - I believe he could win us matches from that position and even with lack of experience could offer alot more threat and better defence than chase. Hardaker is a good full back. Overall I feel the TEAM (after all its a team sport and when the going gets tough you're only as good as your weakest link - which to me is Chase) would be stronger. It shouldn't be about individuals and preferred positions but the team. If Sam is as talented rugby player as people say he should be able to excel anywhere in the back line.
The great German football striker Gerd Muller once played full back and was man of the match. If you've got you can play.
I recall Widnes having to put prop Mike O'Neill on the wing because of injuries in a televised match. Alex Murphy joked he'd like to see him go the full length. A minute later the ball went across and he whizzed in (Albeit from about 25 yards). Likewise, Kurt Sorensen once. That's because they were both deceptively quick and good players.
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| With Burgess...
Tomkins
Charnley
Watkins
Cudjoe
Hall
Chase
Sinfield
Hill
McLlorum
G Burgess
Ferres
S Burgess
O'Loughlin
Roby (On after 20 for the remainder)
Graham (Used like at the Bulldogs on after 20 for remainder)
Westwood (Brought on for a prop and S Burgess pushed to front row)
Farrell
Without Sam Burgess start Westwood and play Mossop or Tom Burgess off the bench.
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| I don't think Sam Burgess should be banned - he committed himself but the guy's head was low.
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| I'd go with the lads with some thing to prove and the lads needing to force their way in. So
Hardaker
Briscoe
Ablett
Cudjoe
Charnley
Widdop
Sinfield
Graham
Mcilorum
Tom Burgess
Westwood
Ferres
O'loughlin
Burrow
Mossop
Farrell
G Burgess
O'Loughlin Sinfield, Roby Tomkins, hall and S Burgess all own their shirts, But I've kept Sinfield in as we need to see how Widdop plays with Sinfield and OLoughlin needs games. The others wont be harmed by a rest and it gives those fighting for or to hold on to a shirt to push for it
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