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| Quote: vbfg "If the idea wasn't retarded enough they came up with this
benefits Union teams no doubt. How the heck would a league team ruck and maul successfully once they get into the opposition half.
Its a horrible idea which rugby league should stay away from. The only benefit for Leeds is gaining more media coverage etc.
Quote: vbfg "there is definitely some mileage in having a hybrid Rugby Union game....maybe reduce the number of players on the pitch, change the rules on ball possession to encourage less kicking, do away with the line out ....the only thing I am struggling with is what to call this new game?..Anyone?'"
exactly. We already have a hybrid version of Rugby!!
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| Can see Leeds scoring a hatful from their own half then
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Quote: kobashi "benefits Union teams no doubt. How the heck would a league team ruck and maul successfully once they get into the opposition half.
Its a horrible idea which rugby league should stay away from. The only benefit for Leeds is gaining more media coverage etc.
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The rules are awful...
thehybridcode.com/index.php?page_id=438
...any League side would largely be restricted to going for long range scores. I'm not sure how Union sides would build any attacks with the 60s rule in place.
As a Leeds fan I hope we go nowhere near this - do we really want to risk injuries in Scrums, Rucks and Mauls?
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Quote: kobashi "benefits Union teams no doubt. How the heck would a league team ruck and maul successfully once they get into the opposition half.
Its a horrible idea which rugby league should stay away from. The only benefit for Leeds is gaining more media coverage etc.
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The rules are awful...
thehybridcode.com/index.php?page_id=438
...any League side would largely be restricted to going for long range scores. I'm not sure how Union sides would build any attacks with the 60s rule in place.
As a Leeds fan I hope we go nowhere near this - do we really want to risk injuries in Scrums, Rucks and Mauls?
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| I can't really see the interest, if some of the League lads really enjoy the Union side of things then Leeds might lose a few stars next year or after.
I think maybe a high profile mini NFL V SL or NRL/Union Tri-tournament might do wonders for the world wide image of the respective sports.
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As a former Union prop (loosehead) this is a must avoid game for Leeds. A union scrum is a highly developed set piece that doesn't just work its takes alot of effort and practice to perfect. Any Premiership team infact any national league team worth their salt should be able to screw Leeds into the ground at the scrum and be awarded constant penalties.
Even with the flankers dropped (usually the lightest) i'd expect the 6 man scrum for Leicester to be pushing 650kg. All they would need to do is drop the ball every few mins (like a normal game!) and just enjoy the scrum.
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| The only hybrid I'd be interested in is union money, rugby league rules.
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| Quote: chubbs1981 "Even with the flankers dropped (usually the lightest) i'd expect the 6 man scrum for Leicester to be pushing 650kg. All they would need to do is drop the ball every few mins (like a normal game!) and just enjoy the scrum.'"
The only way Leeds should touch this is if the rules are amended to remove competitive scrums.
If a Union team loses specialist front rowers to injury and are forced to put other players in there, scrums are declared non-competitive on safety grounds. I can't see how it could then be considered "safe" to scrummage against players who have no understanding of how to do so safely.
Removing flankers will actually destabilise the scrums, making them even more unsafe IMO.
At the moment, this is just an approach from Bob Dwyer to see whether Leeds would be interested. I would be surprised if it got much further than that without some serious negotiation on the format of the game taking place.
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| Quote: chubbs1981 "As a former Union prop (loosehead) this is a must avoid game for Leeds. A union scrum is a highly developed set piece that doesn't just work its takes alot of effort and practice to perfect. Any Premiership team infact any national league team worth their salt should be able to screw Leeds into the ground at the scrum and be awarded constant penalties.
Even with the flankers dropped (usually the lightest) i'd expect the 6 man scrum for Leicester to be pushing 650kg. All they would need to do is drop the ball every few mins (like a normal game!) and just enjoy the scrum.'"
Agreed. As a former tight head, I know of what you speak. If you don't know what you are doing, regardless of how big and strong you are, you will get hurt.
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| Quote: A Leicester Tigers fan "It would lead to a walkover by any decent union side.
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| One day these morons will realise that every code of football there is is defined by the state change, if any, that happens at the tackle and that if the state change of two entirely different sports is diametrically opposed there is no sensible possibility of either merging them or forming a hybrid that makes any kind of sense at all.
I can understand the need of Union to test itself occasionally to see how far it has come since the advent of professionalism but that's all this is.
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| Quote: PopTart "Agreed. As a former tight head, I know of what you speak. If you don't know what you are doing, regardless of how big and strong you are, you will get hurt.'"
And as a hooker in Union I'd agree, unless the League boys are having weeks of training with people who know what they're doing then as a coach I wouldn't let them anywhere near a competitive scrum with top level professionals, it's dangerous enough at College level.
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| I'd agree too, I've played everywhere in a Union scrum except hooker and I can't see how competitive scrums could be allowed in this hybrid version. If the Union lads wanted to they'd win every single scrum and somebody would end up getting seriously injured.
IIRC when Wigan played Bath the Bath lads simply packed down but obviously were sensible and didn't push that much, I'm not sure you could rely on that kind of thing nowadays since Union scrums have changed a lot even since then.
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| Taking into account all the opinions voiced in this thread, the idea of this game should be abandoned. I am not a Leeds fan, but I am a league fan and would not like to see any of their players injured through taking part in a folly like this.
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| Union is a boring sport which is stuck in the past, whereas RL continues to evolve. The USA is the place where Rugby League could thrive, and if it ever does make it big in America people might finally understand that RL is the only Rugby worth watching.
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| Surely the best type of game for a cross code would be 7s match. A lot less complicated than trying to play two games at once.
rlAnyone remember this?rl
Would be nice to see some league lads in the olympics playing for GB in 7s come 2016.
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