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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "Nobody other then you seems to care Sad Act.'"

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You seem to care enough to post a nonsensical sentence which I assume you mean as an insult.

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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in, You take your Brownie out, You put your Bennett in, And you make it to the 8, You do the Oki Chokie, And you get knocked out, Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t] [quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t] NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!! Barry McKenzie can be contacted at aussielegendbaz@gmail.com:45452.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "


Not wishing to criticise anyone here but surely calling another forum member 'sad act' breaches some part of the AUP?

And when the person doing the calling is a forum moderator too.....


Hmmmmm

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



not a sad act Barry, but a Sad Act.

Those darn capital letters really get to me.

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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in, You take your Brownie out, You put your Bennett in, And you make it to the 8, You do the Oki Chokie, And you get knocked out, Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t] [quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t] NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!! Barry McKenzie can be contacted at aussielegendbaz@gmail.com:45452.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "not a sad act Barry, but a Sad Act.

Those darn capital letters really get to me.'"



Shouting is sooooo rude isn't it

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Quote: SmokeyTA "You have missed a little out, because the club specific exemption was superseded by the universal exemption. This is where Hull KR were still receiving the benefit of the exemption.

Had they not been in receipt of the club specific exemption, they would have had fewer players eligible for the universal exemption.'"


So the "club specific" exemption has been superseded? Doesn't that bring us back to my original point that the "dispensation" as it is now is awarded to the players and not the clubs?

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Quote: Barnacle Bill "So the "club specific" exemption has been superseded? Doesn't that bring us back to my original point that the "dispensation" as it is now is awarded to the players and not the clubs?'"

There isnt any 'dispensation' now. There was a 'dispensation' for rovers which meant when the new rules were brought in, then amended, rovers benefited because of their dispensation, and still continue to do so.

Had rovers not received the dispensation they wouldnt be allowed to have the amount of overseas players they have now, this season.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "There isnt any 'dispensation' now. There was a 'dispensation' for rovers which meant when the new rules were brought in, then amended, rovers benefited because of their dispensation, and still continue to do so.

Had rovers not received the dispensation they wouldnt be allowed to have the amount of overseas players they have now, this season.'"


How many less would they have?

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



at the very least 1, maybe 3.

However my point wasnt that the exemption led us to this point, simply that HKA did receive and are still benefiting from their dispensation

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'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_33809.png

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Quote: SmokeyTA "what would be the point of looking at it any other way? HKA's attempts at circumventing the quota dont justify or mitigate it.'"


Because we were looking the long-term impact of a particular issue, it only makes sense to discuss it in terms of how the rules are/were and how they changed.

My contention is that the club-specific dispensations ongoing effect is limited the presence of Lovegrove in the squad.
The rest of the fed-qualified Aussies are down to the universal 2008 and EU passport rules that we have benefitted from through 'luck' in the way the comp-wide rules have developed. Vella, Fisher, Newton, Galea - basically it's just we lucked out when we signed them. The outcome is the same, but the story of how we got here that is been spun on here is misleading IMO.

Quote: SmokeyTA "Not wishing to criticise anyone here but surely calling another forum member 'sad act' breaches some part of the AUP?

And when the person doing the calling is a forum moderator too.....


Hmmmmm'"


In defence of Smokey - he is always polite. In defence of GML, Smokey spent a lot of time politely trolling on the Hull KR forum until about a year ago. I guess I've kind of missed him.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "Nobody other then you seems to care '"

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the original sandy, no aussie imitation!:



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so this is purely a hull kingston rovers thing is it?? I'm sure last time I looked salford have 10 foreigners on their books for 2011 and wakefield who everybody is applauding for signing young british lads have 9 foreigners playing for them next year with another 1 to come. I guess you're not bothered about them though as you don't think they'll do very well?????

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Quote: SmokeyTA "at the very least 1, maybe 3.

However my point wasnt that the exemption led us to this point, simply that HKA did receive and are still benefiting from their dispensation'"


So you would agree then that the superseding of the "club specific" dispensation with the "player specific" rules as they are now does in fact mean I was right, the "dispensation" or however you want to phrase it applies to the player and not the club.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: sandy "so this is purely a hull kingston rovers thing is it?? '"

Nothing gets past you does it icon_biggrin.gif
Actually, it's more a roofs thing....he has often said that in principle that FulhamcrusaderbroncoQuins RL should be ejected from Superleague on principle so I was just pointing out, no matter how HKA circumnavigate the rules that they are not applying the quota as it seen on Principle.
Joking aside, your stadium isn't that bad and will gradually get better once you hit the 10,000 fans your CEO/Chair has stated are needed. Your youth set up will start to produce players in time (something we london fans never got but always said was needed BTW) and financially, once you get to 10,000 you will be in a much stronger position than you are now. Even the missile throwing section of your crowd are accepted as a few mindless idiots who do not reflect the true nature of your core supporters.....but none of this changes the fact that the RFL wanted teams to cut back on overseas players and HKA are one of a few teams who are actually ignoring this. Ergo...this 900+ post thread....which if I am honest, should also include posts about the other offending clubs.

Still, if HKA, Salford, Wakey and all the other teams don't sort out their quota, I am sure it will get a mention when they are allocated their next 3 years in the summer.......it realy isn't right that these teams will field more overseas players than English.


BY THE WAY....."roofs"...I like the new 2011 season HKA Jumpers icon_thumb.gif icon_biggrin.gif

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: Mild Rover "Because we were looking the long-term impact of a particular issue, it only makes sense to discuss it in terms of how the rules are/were and how they changed.

My contention is that the club-specific dispensations ongoing effect is limited the presence of Lovegrove in the squad.
The rest of the fed-qualified Aussies are down to the universal 2008 and EU passport rules that we have benefitted from through 'luck' in the way the comp-wide rules have developed. Vella, Fisher, Newton, Galea - basically it's just we lucked out when we signed them. The outcome is the same, but the story of how we got here that is been spun on here is misleading IMO.
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The story of how you got here, frankly is irrelevant. The fact is we are here, now, and its a pretty p1sspoor position.

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//www.pngnrlbid.com [quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35] [quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]:



Quote: Barnacle Bill "So you would agree then that the superseding of the "club specific" dispensation with the "player specific" rules as they are now does in fact mean I was right, the "dispensation" or however you want to phrase it applies to the player and not the club.'"

No, some players are exempt. Some clubs got a dispensation. If you are still benefiting from the dispensation then you still have the dispensation.

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