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It's good that we're able to have a good debate about who the best English backs are. The two wing spots should be between Hall, Briscoe, and Charnley, although George should get an honourable mention. I'd have all 3 of them in the England squad.

I'd probably pick Hall and Briscoe as the England wingers. Hall has proven himself at international level and has looked good there, and Briscoe hasn't done anything wrong there. It's a close decision between Briscoe and Charnley, and both are proven tryscorers. There isn't much between them physically (according to their club's websites Briscoe is 1cm taller but Charnley is 3kg heavier), but Briscoe is a left winger and Charnley is a right winger. Ryan Hall has nailed down the right-wing spot for England, so the left wing spot should go to the better left winger - which is Briscoe.
I'd also say that Briscoe has looked great in a poor team (over the past couple of seasons) whereas Charnley has looked great in a good team.
Anyway, like I said, it's great that we have enough players of the quality that means we're able to have this discussion.

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Quote: Panda92 " Briscoe is a left winger and Charnley is a right winger. Ryan Hall has nailed down the right-wing spot for England, so the left wing spot should go to the better left winger - which is Briscoe. '"


Reed and Hall both play on the left, they should be our left side pairing (subject to form obviously).

Quote: Panda92 " Anyway, like I said, it's great that we have enough players of the quality that means we're able to have this discussion.'"


Definitely.

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I'm not sayin McLlorum is better than Roby, I just think give Micky first 15 put himself about with some monster hits and then get Roby and Hock on.'"

Off the top of my head James Roby, Rob Burrow, Luke Robinson & Danny Houghton are all better hookers than Michael McIlorum IMO.

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Atkins and Watkins in the centre would be awesome and big aggressive pack with the x factor in Hock. It's certainly looking much better for England regards strength in depth coming through now.'"

Kallum Watkins as good as he is in attack has been a turnstile on many occasions this season in defence for Leeds and i wouldn't put him near the England team yet.

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Quote: George Agdgdgwngo® "Off the top of my head James Roby, Rob Burrow, Luke Robinson & Danny Houghton are all better hookers than Michael McIlorum IMO.'"


Daryl Clark is also a better hooker than McIlorum I think.

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yet again micky mac was the best hooker on the field against saints today. its all good and well saying roby is the best hooker in the world when he gets a fast play of the ball but he looks average when hes team doesn't win the ruck and england won't win the ruck for large periods against the aussies. i am guessing alot of you dont get to watch micky mac because he is the best all round hooker in the league.

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Lomax again showed why he shouldnt be near the England team. He is so overated and blew overlap after overlap today.

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You just have to stand and laugh at fans who dont rate Micky mac. He has been brilliant this season, two times he has played against roby this season, and both times he has been by far the better hooker.

Micky Mac is far better than a lot of the players mentioned that are 'better than him'. the fact Wigan are not even looking at replacing him, despite having a huge (and i mean massive) amount of cap space to spend next season, says a lot about his quality.

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Quote: dubairl "yet again micky mac was the best hooker on the field against saints today. its all good and well saying roby is the best hooker in the world when he gets a fast play of the ball but he looks average when hes team doesn't win the ruck and england won't win the ruck for large periods against the aussies. i am guessing alot of you dont get to watch micky mac because he is the best all round hooker in the league.'"


I didn't really notice him apart from his two poor mistakes.

Decent hooker though, Roby should still start for England, with eithr MM or Houghton off the bench.

Mossop and Hock are a must for the 17 also.

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he stopped perry, lafranchi and sia god knows how many times today with a good shot he is a rock, and now hes sorting out hes passing off the ground he looks fantastic. the only other all round hooker who is as good as him is houghton. roby is world class but only when he gets a quick play of the ball and markers out of position

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Quote: dubairl "he stopped perry, lafranchi and sia god knows how many times today with a good shot he is a rock, and now hes sorting out hes passing off the ground he looks fantastic. the only other all round hooker who is as good as him is houghton. roby is world class but only when he gets a quick play of the ball and markers out of position'"


I thought all the Wigan players defence today was outstanding today.

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Quote: Dave K. "I thought all the Wigan players defence today was outstanding today.'"


he does it week in week out. yeah they was good shame our attack wasn't better.

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I thought "Micky Mac" was Wigan's worst player today.

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Quote: Towns88 "I thought "Micky Mac" was Wigan's worst player today.'"


eusa_shhh.gif Wigan are immune to criticism. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Towns88 "I thought "Micky Mac" was Wigan's worst player today.'"


Wasnt his best game but he wasnt that bad either, just fairly average. It is just as well that Saints had 17 players that were worse icon_lol.gif

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