And yet this IS exactly what I have suggested , but I have suggested that they should not be allowed to profit ON the pitch because of this money

I would think that is quite fair , unlike yourself , who it seems wants certain clubs to be favoured both off and on the pitch by the RFL

I do wonder if the RFL had pumped 3million quid into jnr and grass roots development rather than funding an ill fated SL club how much stronger the game and future foundations in Wales would now be?

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If you think I had said anything different then you're as dumb as a rock.

You really arent making any sense at all. You want Crusaders to exist, but not if they can't be relegated from the championship, but you're happy for them not to be relegated from championship 1. You want them to play by the same rules as everyone else (Lets avoid the point about how many clubs in the championships are relying on overseas players and how many clubs are breaking salary caps, we wouldnt want you to look too much of a hypocritical fool would we?) even though they arent in the same position as everyone else (i wonder how leigh would be doing if they needed to pay a premium for players who had come through SL academies to move to join them) and you are happy for them to be funded by the RFL, but if they get a parachute payment that immediately precludes them from being promoted(and it also precludes them from playing by the same rules as everyone else)

So to some up, you want a crusaders club which cannot compete because of the salary cap, to play at the lowest professional level so that people can see the lowest level of professional rugby league, you want them to play by the same rules as everyone else but you are happy for them to not play by the same rules as everyone if it disadvantages them and you want them funded by the RFL but that self-same funding precludes them from moving forward.


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Diddums. So, to summarize please list who you think is to blame for the failure of Crusaders. I'll start and finish your list, you just fill in the rest.

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8. The RFL.

Away you go with all your bollax . . . .

No, id be happy to see them in the championships if the rules were fair and allowed them to compete on a level playing field. Unfortunately doing that would mean removing/changing a fair few rules which actually benefit the heartland clubs.

Im happy to leave the decision over whether we remove/change the rules to allow a level playing field or whether we simply apply them to Crusaders (and any other club in a similar position) to the heartland clubs.

Maybe if you spent less time thinking up bollax you can attribute to me and then argue against and more time thinking about you were saying, you might avoid talking so much bollax.

I don't have to spend any time thinking - the crap you put on here is plentiful. It runs on here like a tap. You don't like it up you do you son?

It definately shows.

As I put earlier , I am happy for them to receive extra financial assistance from the RFL as long as they don't profit from it ON field , so assistance to help them establish themselves as a business , as for quotas I would suggest they were allowed extra Dual Registration and loan players for a set period , given that there are going to be 5 SL clubs within a 40 minute drive of Wrexham , I don't really see why they would need to employ expensive overseas players

It would seem you think they are doomed to failure unless they are allowed to break all the rules of the sport , if that is the case then they aren't worth having

So to sum up , you want them to make all the same mistakes they have already done in the last 5 years , again

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