To be fair he has a point,we came from the game of rugby which we still played after we broke away from the now RFU.
It's not our fault that our game has evolved and union is still a caveman monstrosity which is trying to be like RL(badly).

Fair point.

Best way would be to split the 9 Sydney clubs + Canberra, Central Coast and Newcastle into two 6s then I guess. Keep the three QLD clubs together, and have the expansion clubs (NZ Warriors, Melbourne and Perth) as the other group of three.

So maybe something likeNorthern Conference
Brisbane Broncos (QLD)
Central Coast Bears (NSW)
Gold Coast Titans (QLD)
Manly Sea Eagles (Syd)
Newcastle Knights (NSW)
North Queensland Cowboys (QLD)
Parramatta Eels (Syd)
Penrith Panthers (Syd)
Wests Tigers (Syd)

Southern Conference:
Canberra Raiders (ACT)
Canterbury Bulldogs (Syd)
Cronulla Sharks (Syd)
Melbourne Storm (VIC)
New Zealand Warriors (NZ)
Perth Reds (WA)
South Sydney Rabbitohs (Syd)
St George-Illawarra Dragons (Syd)
Sydney Roosters (Syd)

No, we came from rugby union, which produced its laws based on the slightly different versions of Rugby football and other similar versions of football at the time that didn't agree with the rules devised by the Football Association.

It has nothing to do with how much rugby union has evolved since we split codes. It doesn't change the fact that we evolved from their rules in 1895. To say we didn't evolve from rugby union rules just isn't true. It's not an opinion thing, it's a fact.

When we split where we not playing the same game.

Of course. But do you imagine that the RFU suddenly decided to invent a new game? Quite the reverse, they became conservative and got rid of various experimental laws that the Northern Union had adopted.

The game that "we" were playing was the RFU's

Well done dally messenger

You have successfully managed to detract attention from your assertion that the Up'n'under/bomb was a tactic learnt/copied by RL from American Football.....you truly are RLFANS version of a politician the way you wriggled off that hook

Still, it has to be one of the funniest things posted on RLFANS in 2010

it matters because RU has attempted to take that history from RL clubs

eg i think theres a halifax RU club or maybe it was huddersfield and they took over the history of what the northern union club achieved pre 1895.

its also aiding the RFUs believe that they are the original game and we are the b&&tard offshoot

its wrong

both union and league evolved from rugby

then the sport split in two under 2 different governing bodies

we did not set up a new sport, we continued the old sport under our own governing body. thats all.

the non sydney conferene would include all the queensland derbies, some country nsw teams and nz.

these games are all very valuable if the storm and perth arent as much

sydney viewers will still want to watch these games anyway

according to your logic then Hull FC were formed in 1895

go and tell your club to stop lieing about their formation date.

No it didn't. There was the RFU before and then the RFU and the NRFU (RFL) after. There wasn't two different bodies. One was the same and the other one was new.

Yes, we continued the old sport, which was rugby union (rules devised by the RFU). If you think that the rules that we adopted were the same as the rules before the RFU was formed then you're an idiot.

We evolved from rugby union. Get over it, it's a fact.

How on Earth have you come to that conclusion? Hull FC as a "football club" was formed in 1865. The fact that they played rugby union before they played rugby league doesn't alter the fact that they were formed in 1865.

You mean in he same way Bradford Northern took over the history of Bradford Park Avnue?

the RFU didnt invent the game of rugby or its rules. it inherited them from the clubs, many of them northern clubs

these same clubs then got sick of the dishonest way the RFU was running the game so set up their own governing body playing the same game.

NORTHERN UNION = RU for northern clubs

no new sport was started in 1895, thats just the date we got our own governing body, an honest one