You are the one trolling by making out RU fans aren't real/proper (whatever word you like) so:

FACT. I went to the RLWC opening games at the MS and observed there were lots of people amongst the swathes of empty seats chatting when the game was on rather than watching the game.
FACT. When I got free tickets to the same matches I asked at least 10-12 Welsh RU fans to come but none took me up on it as according to the people I asked 'it's only RL etc'.
FACT. With attendances going down at 8 of the 12 Super League clubs this year maybe you should be worrying about getting the fans that RL are losing instead of worrying about RU fans and what they are doing.

It's counted as 60,000 twice not four times as 2 of the the teams are playing away. Not quite the 220,000 you claimed. Even if you take the 60,000 off the total the Aviva Prem is still way ahead of Super League so it's a moot point anyway.

What published crowd figures do you have a problem with? Feel free to list them and what it is about them you have doubts about.....



1. The Double header crowd is added to the averages of the "two" home teams and not all 4, but don't let facts get in the way of your opinion.
2. The Double Header event is actually a regular season "home" game for the 2 first named teams and therefore they get a share of the revenue. This has been done by the NRL in the past for games at Brisbane.
3. Magic Weekend is not a regular home game and the clubs do not share in the revenue...it is a money making event for the RFL that does nothing for the clubs other than skew the fixtures.
4. The Big games events are again stand alone regular season games where the "home" team are in receipt of the takings. If Leeds Rhinos took a game to elland road and got 35,000 that would count as part of their average...why don't they? Sarracens and Quins are to be applauded for their initiatives, not sneered at for their success.
5. By suspicious when referring to Unions crowds, what exactly do you mean? There are plenty of crowds in RL that end in ,000 that we accept. Or is it the Average for Quins being bigger than their capacity at the stoop?
Pay careful attention now.....10 games at the stoop and 1, with 82,000 in attendance at Twickenham. If they averaged 12,500 at the stoop, their seasons average would be...18,818........but their stadium only holds 14,850. Are they lying or are they just smart, by creating an event that boosts their coffers?

What an absolutely awful game that Wales Fiji match was.
Not one single player on either team showing any understanding of how to fix, drag and hold a defender or create and exploit space. Neither team had the core skills to to execute more than 3 passes before it fell apart and not being capable of making correct decisions at international level is laughable.

Once again there was a huge social occasion going on around and within the stadium. The media hyped up expectations beyond anything the game was ever capable of delivering.

Awful awful quality !

That said I could cut n paste this post and apply it to just about every game so far and all the ones still to be played.

Ooooh thats it now, 2 more pages of Me, Myself and Irene will be ripping you to bits

Sam Burgess was totally responsible for Huddersfield's defeat tonight.

He's a disgrace.

Most of the Union plonkers blame Lancaster for Eng RU's loss against Wales not Burgess.

Again, for the second time I have never suggested union fans aren't 'real' or 'proper'. Those are your words and you're trying to put those words in my mouth just so you have something to troll at. You're having to invent stuff so you can troll, which makes you very sad.
Don't bother replying to this because I'm done with you. You're clearly not interested in an adult discussion.

As you know you can imply something without actually saying it. Saying that someone is inventing something, being sad, not being interested in an adult discussion ('Him' and 'loonie81' used that one too) or a troll is just the standard kop-out for being short of facts.

As for being 'done with me',

I know it's very childish, but f*** it...

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees go you Aussies!!!!