You should try taking some of your own advice sometimes... "Doubt everything, even this".

And if you genuinely believe that a club that has gone bust twice in 2 years had a solid, sustainable and robust bid that was up there with the best 14, then you really are away with the fairies.

When O'Connor's plans come to fruition and we're rivalling the best once again, this lot will be eating their words.

tb is always the same, it will be interesting if Cas got threw out for 2012, im sure he would take it on the chin and applaud the RFL.

I was looking for the post a few days ago where he stated that the RFL should not have guaranteed a Championship club a place in 2012 , and that it should not happen again , I wonder if that opinion will continue if Cas are the club to get the drop ?

Quite. I think the fact that the RFL posts comments from the Crusaders on its own website whilst neglecting any official comment of its own speaks volumes.

No, because you are a boring, negative poster, your question was irrelevant and I don't have time for you.

So thats a no then , they aren't responsible for 12 of the Welsh team , thanks for confirming it

Somebody has already answered your question. The fact that you chose to ignore their response and instead have persisted with asking irrelevant questions in an attempt to unearth some sort of negativity that you can exploit speaks volumes about you and why I cannot be bothered to engage with you. Like I said on another thread, if you don't like RL then go away.

1 No they didn't , they just repeated your excuse for a reply

2 I asked you

The decision to put the Celtic Crusaders into SL was not responsible for the 12 players [ who's names you have now conveniently forgotten ] improvement of the Welsh squad and it's performance in the Euro Cup

Can I really be bothered replying to that...oh go on then. There should be transparency around these kind of decisions. Why does one team get effectively 3 wins deducted and another only 2. What are the criteria:

- only just went into administration - 2 points
- went quite badly into administration - 4 points
- completely cream crackered into administration - 6 points

or

- expansion team who won't make the playoff if we deduct 6 points and Sky won't be happy about that (and Wigan) - 4 points
- everyone else - 6 points

Seek and you shall find

According to the LE, the Crusaders have agreed to pay a substantial amount of their debt, that's why they've only been deducted 4 points.

The 9 point deductions are when clubs write off all or most of the debt.

Or words similar to that but you get the drift

Only championship & championship 1 teams get 9 points taken off them, because its 3pts for a win in the Championship, and only 2 pts for a win in Super League.
Thats why the maximum points deduction in Super League is 6pts.

It's very annoying that there is a rational explanation for this, how about everyone on RLFANS pretend we haven't seen this and then we can carry on with all manner of conspiracy theories and "it's not fair" whining?

Don't worry, they will.

So effectively they bought points off the RFL, as they owed a lot to them but by paying more lose less points, smashing that!