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Quote: rollin thunder "i live in the area and Wakefield met is ridiculous that there is a site with full planning permission adjacent to the Xscape complex right next to M62 about 6 miles from Wakefied and yet neither club has any money or will not mortage themselves to jointly fund a shared stadium, plus Wakefied council could partially fund it. 3 way split 10 million or so each. a 20 year mortgage works out about 1.5 million ish each per year that's only the sky money. Leeds have borrowed to redevelop headingley. if clubs don't want to invest in there own infrastructure and refuse to share why should anybody else just give them something for free.
the other site, well Cas fans are deluded if they think one brick will be laid on there new ground until the shopping complex is both build and all units are filled.'"

The underlined is the only bit I agree with. As for mortgages etc, what is Trinity going to mortgage, goodwill and a promise? The Stadium is not owned by the Club. We could have bought it a few years ago but were advised not to by someone att in a position of 'trust' because the developer of Newmarket was going to and redevelop it because it was cheaper than building a brand new one along with the 2 multi-use pitches at Newmarket. Guess what, they didn't and another developer did called 88m, who's also promised big things that haven't materialised into anything.

As for the rest, there is also a site with full planning, which according to Mr Carter when speaking to another SL Club owner of a side in West Yorkshire, that has won a load of silverware the past 15 years or so, that happens to be in the building development business. Apparently says that the site is probably the best commercial development site that hasn't been developed along the M62, but yet this developer has only built one huge building employing only 125 people in 7 years. You may have seen it if you live in the area.

Amazingly even though the developer only got his hands on the green belt land and old Colliery because of an S106, rubber-stamped by the Secretary of State. With a promise to build a Community stadium and other sports facilities for the people in the area to use, seeing as we have next to nothing in the area. Plus the 15k signatures in support of the development around 8 years ago. Said monstrous Cold store building somehow got passed by WMDC but amazingly didn't count towards the 60k square feet they were to build before it triggered the build of the Community Stadium and other sports facilities. Knowing this you can see what Trinity has been dealing with the past 7 years. Funnily when all this was brought to light in a national paper, the Council suddenly started promising all kinds of unfeasible ideas, the latest being to build a Stadium on some land that has no access on some field behind Peacock Estate lol.

it's amazing though that so many stadiums have been built this way up and down the country but not Wakefield. WMDC have allowed a two-bit developer to run rings around them and get away with murder but yet still won't man up and put pressure on the people or tell them to jog on and let a developer with some ethics move in.

Anyway comparing a Club like Leeds, in a City of that size (even compared to the whole of the WMD) with only one SL club which owns its own stadium, that happens to be owned by a man that's worth about £200m really isn't a fair comparison imo.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



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Quote: Shifty Cat "The underlined is the only bit I agree with. As for mortgages etc, what is Trinity going to mortgage, goodwill and a promise? The Stadium is not owned by the Club. We could have bought it a few years ago but were advised not to by someone att in a position of 'trust' because the developer of Newmarket was going to and redevelop it because it was cheaper than building a brand new one along with the 2 multi-use pitches at Newmarket. Guess what, they didn't and another developer did called 88m, who's also promised big things that haven't materialised into anything.

As for the rest, there is also a site with full planning, which according to Mr Carter when speaking to another SL Club owner of a side in West Yorkshire, that has won a load of silverware the past 15 years or so, that happens to be in the building development business. Apparently says that the site is probably the best commercial development site that hasn't been developed along the M62, but yet this developer has only built one huge building employing only 125 people in 7 years. You may have seen it if you live in the area.

Amazingly even though the developer only got his hands on the green belt land and old Colliery because of an S106, rubber-stamped by the Secretary of State. With a promise to build a Community stadium and other sports facilities for the people in the area to use, seeing as we have next to nothing in the area. Plus the 15k signatures in support of the development around 8 years ago. Said monstrous Cold store building somehow got passed by WMDC but amazingly didn't count towards the 60k square feet they were to build before it triggered the build of the Community Stadium and other sports facilities. Knowing this you can see what Trinity has been dealing with the past 7 years. Funnily when all this was brought to light in a national paper, the Council suddenly started promising all kinds of unfeasible ideas, the latest being to build a Stadium on some land that has no access on some field behind Peacock Estate lol.

it's amazing though that so many stadiums have been built this way up and down the country but not Wakefield. WMDC have allowed a two-bit developer to run rings around them and get away with murder but yet still won't man up and put pressure on the people or tell them to jog on and let a developer with some ethics move in.

Anyway comparing a Club like Leeds, in a City of that size (even compared to the whole of the WMD) with only one SL club which owns its own stadium, that happens to be owned by a man that's worth about £200m really isn't a fair comparison imo.'"


Excellent post SC - the only thing you missed out though was the involvement of sir Rodney Walker in this fiasco which I'm sure would be of great interest to many on here.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



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He’s right Roy, derek only has himself to blame

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Quote: Lebron James "He’s right Roy, derek only has himself to blame

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DJB says he can't/won't pay, what else is there for it, only one course of action Liquidation, RIP Leigh Rugby League Football Club.
Incidently I propotion the blame for Leigh's demise unequivocally with the player's, they were brought in to do a job, they came with glowing reputations, so much so most were given 2 year contracts, the first to get them into SL and the second year to consolidate.
Every expert, journalist, tipster before a ball was kicked this season had the Leigh Club through amassing that group of 'elite' players winning the League comfortably, and who would have backed against them doing so?
All you who comment on Leighs demise and why it happened should have been present at the games, they were going through the motions, their body language looked as though they were saying f*^k it, I'm being payed any way, they should be hanging thier heads in shame and walking away. They have managed to wipe out 140 years of history in one season.

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Read what i am typing...

Budgiezilla wrote that, not me. I have stated countless times that me and Budgiezilla are two different people.


Note to mods.... you were quick enough to defend Jean/Kev/Lebron/Canoeman, how about a little delve into the system to let this moron know me and Budgiezilla are 2 different users

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Quote: Harry Stottle "and who would have backed against them doing so?'"


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Quote: RoyBoy29 "Note to mods.... you were quick enough to defend Jean/Kev/Lebron/Canoeman, how about a little delve into the system to let this moron know me and Budgiezilla are 2 different users'"


For the record - Budgiezilla and RoyBoy29 post from different IP addresses, as do Jean/Kev/Lebron/Canoeman (no more detail will be forthcoming).

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And did you?
I doff my hat to you Sir, no one in any of the trade papers or radio and TV could see beyond them.

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So will Leigh be merging with Salford then?

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Joff "So will Leigh be merging with Salford thent?'"

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Quote: Joff "So will Leigh be merging with Salford then?'"

Hope so, it would be a lot lesser hurt than liquidation, and far far 1million times better than the other mooted merger with the "Crusties" of Pieland the team from the same Borough, the talk was that life expectancy is numbered at the DW and a major shareholder in the LSV is Wiggin Council, ready made home for them apparently icon_eek.gif

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Harry Stottle "Hope so, it would be a lot lesser hurt than liquidation, and far far 1million times better than the other mooted merger with the "Crusties" of Pieland the team from the same Borough, the talk was that life expectancy is numbered at the DW and a major shareholder in the LSV is Wiggin Council, ready made home for them apparently Can the LSV hold their millions of fans as well as their ego's?

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