I'd offer the job to D. Powell he's a well rounded ex player and coach and seems to have a little bit more professionalism about him than McNamara. I genuinely think he could accept the role, not sure there'd be many more willing to do the job.

England have been a shambles in this campaign, and one performance against NZ shouldn't be used as the criteria on which we judge it.

Losing to Italy is not acceptable, under any circumstances.

Losing 5 players at various points to disciplinary issues is not acceptable.

Treating the media the way that he did was not acceptable.

Ferres, one of the best players, was not even named in the original squad, and then went on to play every single game. If he was seen as such a vital part of the team from the kick off of the very first game, why wasn't he named in the squad?

Persisting with Chase. Widdop not given a chance, despite Chase clearly not performing over the past 3 years.

If Widdop and Graham play against Australia, we would probably have played Fiji in the semi final, rather than NZ.

Voluntarily playing 16 men in a tough forward battle (with a forward sat on the bench for the entire game).

No clue what to do with the hooking role, with Roby, Burrow, McIllorum and Sinfield all having a go in the position at various points.

Getting to the semi final should be such a fundamental part of the job spec, it doesn't need to be said. I could coach England to the semi finals of this competition. It shouldn't be in any doubt that McNamara is removed from his position immediately.

The RL media in this country is ridiculously poor. I have no problem whatsoever with the way Steve McNamara treated them. They seem to want to be able to run around running their own campaigns and trying to undermine the coach, then also expect him to be on bended knee kissing their feet because they decided to give him the time of day.

They were ridiculous and their name isnt in much better stead with the club chairmen either,

TBH i think Wane and Anderson part time would be a great combo, big, scary, intellegent, passionate coaches.

Mac has done a great job in creating a team spirit and not overworking the players, although it seems some took advantage of this, i think his only problem was team selection.

I don't really follow your logic here. You're in favour of getting rid of MacNamara. That's fine; it's not a point of view I share but it's sensible if you see better options out there. But at least MacNamara got his side playing to within a few percentage points of their capabilities in the most important game of his tenure. Yet you see Anderson as a credible replacement when patently his side fell away at the most critical point of his first season in charge. I'm not having a dig at Anderson here; I'm sure he's smart enough to learn from it and become a better coach in the process. But there's simply no evidence that he's as far along that learning curve as MacNamara is.

McNamara should stay in the job unless we have a structure and/or personnel who would be better than him.

What McNamara has done and done well is build a squad, put in place the support structures around them, get them together regularly, and build towards this.

People proposing we just have a club coach who does the job part time need to see what a step backwards that is. We can’t just have a club coach who turns up at the end of the year to try and get results.

Part of me sees McNamara has done a very good job, part of me also thinks that letting him go would send out a message that failure is no longer tolerated. A galvanising effect that sends a message that we aren’t accepting being the plucky losers anymore.

For that we need to have something better in place. What that something is, is the question.

Im not sure that there are any coaches better than McNamara out there who would do the job full-time, which would mean a change of structure, possibly someone like Ellery Hanley taking control of the performance aspect full-time, with McDermott, Wane maybe even someone like Sculthorpe assisting with the first team squad.

Reports in League Express that he could become the backs coach at Bath RU

Regardless of how people think McNamara has performed, I think it's time for a change. McNamara could stay on in some capacity, perhaps as a liaison with the NRL-based players during the season, with the actual coaching job going back to part-time.

A few good things have been implemented, the regular squad meetings at Loughborough and the Knights for example. I think the squad needs to be freshened up now and get ready to build towards the future and ultimately the next WC. Players like Sinfield, Westwood, O'Loughlin, Burrow are getting on now and we've got to start looking at replacing them.

I'd put together an ETS and a Knights squad with this in mind. Something like:

England ETS:
FB: Sam Tomkins, Jonny Lomax
W: Ryan Hall, Josh Charnley, Tom Briscoe
C: Kallum Watkins, Leroy Cudjoe, Jack Reed
HB: Gareth Widdop, Matty Smith, Richie Myler
Utility: Zak Hardaker, Stefan Ratchford
P: James Graham, George Burgess, Chris Hill, Lee Mossop, Tom Burgess, Scott Taylor, LMS
H: James Roby, Mike McIlorum, Shaun Lunt
SR: Brett Ferres, Liam Farrell, Danny Kirmond, Carl Ablett
LF: Sam Burgess

Knights:
FB: Greg Eden, Jamie Shaul, Matty Russell
W: Jermaine McGilvary, Tom Lineham, Jodie Broughton
C: Ben Crooks, Iain Thornley, Josh Jones
HB: Gareth O'Brian, Sam Powell, Liam Sutcliffe
Utility: Dan Sarginson, Tom Makinson
P: Alex Walmsley, Dom Crosby, Liam Watts, Brad Singleton
H: Danny Houghton, Darryl Clark, Josh Hodgson
SR: Ben Currie, Chris Clarkson, Jack Hughes
LF: John Bateman, Stevie Ward

Sure I've missed loads out and there will be lads who are 18-21 now who will be pushing for places in a few years time. But there is plenty of talent and potential without having to rely on the players who won't be around in 4 years time. The first team need more games against NZ and Australia and the Knights need regular fixtures against the other European sides, or Pacific Island teams.

Other than wishful thinking I've never heard any suggestion that Hanley is likely to ever return to the game in any serious capacity.
Even if he did, I'm not sure what he could offer. He's been out of it for at least 12 years and his coaching reputation always seemed to be more based on his previous playing ability than anything else.

If and when there is a change, we need Shaun Edwards as coach with a strong manager in addition for tournaments eg Hetherington

Smokey,

There was a moment on Saturday when Tanya Arnold asked McNamara if he thought it had been a good world cup despite the issues at the start. A good and honest man, such as Stephen Kearney, would have shrugged his shoulders, looked a little bit conciliatory and would have said, "yeah, we had issues but we worked through them, learned from them and it made us stronger."

That would have been a class answer and respect would have gone to the coach. Instead McNamara quickly turns indignant and says, " we had no problems, this is a strong squad" or words to that effect. Talk about rewriting history. I thought at that moment the idiot has learnt nothing.

That wasn't the fault of the RL press that was McNamara not having the basic understanding that sometimes it is okay to show weakness or errors or to admit to mistakes. If he can't learn that basic approach do you think he will get any media support?

That’s just nonsense.

You have simply invented something someone else would have said, to criticise a McNamara quote you don’t really remember.

I don’t think any England manager needs media support.

The RL media are uniformly terrible, each running their personal little campaigns, and bitching and whining when stories aren’t handed to them on a plate. The national media don’t give us much but what they do isn’t anywhere near the depth to be troubling.

I'd agree but this isn't a proposal being put forward solely by posters on this board. Several media sources over the weekend have stated quite unequivocally that this decision has already been made by the powers that be.

Nope, I recall something like that in the on pitch interview straight after the game, and thought that McNamara should improve his media skills too.