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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "
Someone else states some bumf about the photographic evidence. Is that the series of three pictures where Lee briers is behind the ball on the second
As Briers' position has precisely zero relevance to the question of whether or not he knocked it on, the question is irrelevant.
As the images conclusively prove he did not knock on, i conclude you're just on the wind up.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "
Someone else states some bumf about the photographic evidence. Is that the series of three pictures where Lee briers is behind the ball on the second
Agree, watched over and over, its a knock on
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "
Someone else states some bumf about the photographic evidence. Is that the series of three pictures where Lee briers is behind the ball on the second
No, its the video evidence that clearly shows Briers deflected the ball about 2 foot behind him....
It wasn't a knock on, the officials got it right.
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| Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "Briers changes the direction of the ball, doesn't take it cleanly. The ball would have continued travelling past him, in stead it stopped dead and hit the ground. That's a knock on. We know it's a knock on, because that's what was given against Rob Burrow in the game against Wire last year, where the ball continued to travel backwards until Burrow picked it up clean. '"
No it's not. You can't just make up what the rule is to make you right.
A knock on is if the ball is dropped towards the opponents try line and hits either the floor or a player.
Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "Leuluai doesn't deliberately play the ball, he completes a tackle, and brushes a ball lost by Hodgson. Delaney is part of that tackle, and so is onside to play the ball, which he does, and scores. It's a legit try, and should have been given. '"
Leuluai knocks on clearly. He's moving his arms to get to the ball. He didn't do it making the tackle so it's a knock on.
Delaney is in front of Leuluai when he knocks it. He's offside. It really is that simple.
Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "There's also at least one incident of 'running through the line' by Wire dummy runners, for which we've seen tries chalked off this year, and Waterhouse clears Sinfield out for another of Warrington's tries. '"
I remember seeing an incident where a Leeds player's path is slightly obstructed by a dummy runner. For it to be a penalty, the ref needs to believe that the player could have made the tackle. Had the player not stopped and whined at the ref, he'd have gotten to the player. Not the first time a Leeds player has been guilty of the whinging trait this year.
Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "Meanwhile Briers deliberately makes contact with an airborne player (i.e. a dangerous tackle) and isn't binned, while Paul Wood is seen striking, and not (as should be the case) red carded. '"
Not sure about the Briers incident, but if Wood had been sent off it would have completely ruined the game. It's a final, it's gonna get a bit spicy. I'm not sure what happened in the build up to it to cause Wood to lash out either.
Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "An altogether woeful and one-eyed display from Silverwood, surely he's got to be sacked after being so poop for so long. '"
Oh behave. Your team didn't lose did they?
Quote: Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan "As for some of the other 'I know the rules' special ones on here, McGuire's try at Wigan should have stood, as Cummins confirmed in the report for the weekend. There is no rule against dropkicking in open play, or that dropkicks must only be for goal (that's why missed drop goals are play on/20 metre restart it the ball goes dead).'"
This is one thing I disagree with Cummins about. It opens up a huge can of worms him saying that. McGuire wasn't going for a drop kick. He dropped the ball and miskicked it. That's a knock on to me. Basically Cummins is saying that it's OK to knock on as long as you kick it after, which I think goes against what the game is about. But that says it all about Cummins.
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| i think leeds got their fair share of dodgy calls ie the leeds player being taken into touch as silverwood shouted held at the same time he hit touch leeds got the penalty.
briers was stationary when "the obstruction" took place, he was going for the ball it went over his head so what is he meant to do dive on to the floor?
the ratchford try that didnt go to the video westwood knocks it backwards given as a scrum to leeds.
this is all being pedantic but the delany try in my opinion was correct call (of course on the day sat in the stands i was furious that it wasn't a high shot. but proved wrong when i watched it back)
briers was 50/50 again on the day i said we were lucky to get away with it but watching it back i think he gave benefit of the doubt
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| Quote: SBR "Delaney was offside. He was in front of Leuluai when the ball hit Leuluai's hand.'"
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story, especially when Odem and the Electric Gliding Warrior are involved.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "As Briers' position has precisely zero relevance to the question of whether or not he knocked it on, the question is irrelevant.
As the images conclusively prove he did not knock on, i conclude you're just on the wind up.
The image does nothing of the sort, I therefore conclude you should have gone to spec savers.
Briers, in a standing position, attempts to catch the drop out. As he is in a standing position and therefore not moving forward he provides a good point of reference within the second picture where the ball is at an absolute minimum level with him as to the direction the ball went in after his poor attempt to catch.
Of course this is the common sense approach.
As i have mentioned, this could happen 1000 times and 999 times be called a knock on and not questioned.
If the touch judge called this it was by luck rather than judgement at full speed.
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| Quote: Starbug "Leeds throw between 10 and 20 forward passes a game, so dont start moaning about other clubs getting away with the odd infringement, they also employ Ryan Bailey, reason enough to be penalised, not to mention Brent Webb, and Danny Buderus , who was unable to get up off the floor without leaning all over the opposition player as he played the ball Danny knocked on and kicked at the ball
You lost fair and square, get over it'"
He did well to infringe the play the ball from australia!
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "It was a knock on, the officials got it wrong'"
It really wasn't, and they really didn't.
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| Quote: wolfinwidnes "briers was stationary when "the obstruction" took place, he was going for the ball it went over his head so what is he meant to do dive on to the floor?'"
To be fair here, Sir knew exactly what he was doing. He places himself in front of Joel then stands still. If he didn't lean into Hall, it's not a penalty but as he makes a conscious effort to "obstruct" him, penalty.
I can see why Silverwood didn't give it for the above reason of him just placing himself in a position to collect a potentially spilt ball. Keith Senior made a career out of this play. I wouldn't have called a penalty on that but also I would have pinged Briers for the "knock-on" which actually wasn't. Mistakes happen, no players are perfect, neither are refs but on this occasion it appears they for the majority correct.
People complaining about challenge in the air though, don't be silly.
And the other classic, Woodies punch should be a red card. Every game with a bit of spice would be abandoned and Bailey would play less minutes than Stuart Fielden in 2 years.
I've seen worst reffing this season alone, but don't let me spoil a good old conspiracy theory that Silverwood is also on the Wire "over the cap" wage bill.
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| After watching the game back (and re-watching certian bits) I can honestly say.................the officials actaully did a pretty decent job. Whether by design, fluke or professionalism they got most of the calls right.
Its also good when you look at other things. Should Wood have stayed? In a normal game he probably wouldnt. Should officials take the nature of the game into consideration when applying the rules. BUT call it karma, he satyed.....as did Ablet who actually hit out at Wood first (go back and watch it and watch Ablets left hand).
In all...........a good day at the office for the guys in yellow.
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| Quote: mikej "After watching the game back (and re-watching certian bits) I can honestly say.................the officials actaully did a pretty decent job. Whether by design, fluke or professionalism they got most of the calls right.
Its also good when you look at other things. Should Wood have stayed? In a normal game he probably wouldnt. Should officials take the nature of the game into consideration when applying the rules. BUT call it karma, he satyed.....as did Ablet who actually hit out at Wood first (go back and watch it and watch Ablets left hand).
In all...........a good day at the office for the guys in yellow.'"
I reckon the officials did a pretty good job in such a big game though Leeds fans will nitpick as much as they like if it makes them feel better...
I assume Wood didn't 'walk' because the severity of the offence wasn't witnessed fully by the ref hence Wood being only put 'on report' ?
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| Quote: Lockyer4President! "Jeez you dumb pommies over-react over the littlest things…
Credibility gone because of a bad decision or two, grow up ffs...'"
I was about to laugh at this thread, and then I got depressed instead. Once again there are people spouting things on here about the 'laws' of the game that bear no resemblance to those laws which are rlfreely downloadablerl from the RFL website. Inexcusable.
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| Quote: cod'ead "I'd like to see a referee and two particular touch judges appointed, as a team, to all fixtures. That way they can build something of a rapport and any inconsistencies should be easier to highlight and to deal with.'"
I vote coddy to replace Cummings at Red Hall. Common sense suggestion where it's easy to see the benefits that could result from it.
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| Quote: Paul Thexton "I was about to laugh at this thread, and then I got depressed instead. Once again there are people spouting things on here about the 'laws' of the game that bear no resemblance to those laws which are rlfreely downloadablerl from the RFL website. Inexcusable.'"
maybe some of the officials would care to browse through them sometime ? especially before attempting the Perpignan run...
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