Bailey does get into too much niggly dirty stuff (what team doesn't have a player like that?), but i think people on here who like to say Bailey is a rubbish player must only look out for the bad things just to be able to criticise. If you watch him fairly you'll see he is actually a good prop, not great, but good. He never has nor ever will be in the class of Graham, Peacock, Morley who are/been great props, but on his day he can be a real handful.

Nearly as good as having a brass band playing in the stand, because thats not embarrassing at all is it.

CRINGE

Kevin Brown is constantly verballing other players and refs - sooner or later he is going to get what is coming - he has always been like this. We are not party to the nature/content of the on-field sledging and we don't know what led to this incident. I personally have no truck with Kevin Brown getting an occasional slapping - perhaps if it happened more often he might start concentrating on his game and fulfill the undoubted skills he has.

He reminds me of Darren Turner - who was like this until Tony Kemp's right hand showed him the error of his ways.

Classic mistake you've made there - TMFMISL etc was only coined in about 2010 in direct response to the fact that every week opposition fans felt the need to come onto southstander and start a thread about Bailey being useless and/or a thug.

We now just have one perminent Bailey thread

As long as Cockayne has a gig in SL Bailey is safe from this accusation.

I note that many posters who dislike Bailey have accused him of being a "niggler".

Freudian spelling mistakes?

WOW, just WOW, where the hell has this thread gone? There is either some major wind up merchants at play or some people that don't know how to have a sensible conversation.

After reading some of the tripe thats been written, especially about my thoughts on Bailey lets remember why this thread started.

Bailey pushes the referee, gives him verbals and get suspended for it. I brought up the guy has past for acting like this and I don't understand how he is in the England squad?

Why is Bailey being discussed? Because its a thread about Bailey getting suspended?

I notice no one challenged my stats on his 25 meetings with the Disciplinary meetings compared to Peacocks 4 in three years?

There's a lot of players I don't think are worth their England Squad, and a lot of players I find that rather than tough or hard playing, are actually just dirty cheap shotters. Bailey to me is one of these players, and if he could take this attitude out of his game and concentrate on what he's meant to be doing he would be a far FAR better player in my eyes.

I am not sure if 25 meetings with the disciplinary in 3 years is correct or not. It seems a lot but I will take your word for it. How many of those 25 meetings resulted in a ban?

25 meetings?

Thats nearly as many hidings hes had from opposition players!

Ok, I'll challenge it now for you.

Have you just gone down the list of reports on the RFL's "Disciplinary" webpage to get that number?

You do realise those are all incidents reviewed by the video panel, and that some (if not most) of those incidents lead to conclusions of no further action, penalty sufficient or even not guilty?

So not all of those incidents will have resulted in trips to the disclipinary.

How dare you bring facts into this. He's a thug.

FACT.

End of.

True I've counted the number of times the disciplinary panel have looked at him, but then again I did this for all other players as a comparison. Of the last 4 cases, he was given two suspensions, one caution and one NFA (no further action).

The Comparison still shows the stats in comparison to other players, he gets pulled around 6 times more often than Peacock, and I'm pretty sure Peacock has played more games.

However Ben Westwood has also been pulled 25 times and Joel Tomkins 24 times. Which goes to show that they're all as dirty as each other.

I'd like to challenge you on that. I was not aware Bailey had been charged with pushing a referee before. Do you have any evidence to support that?