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| Quote: Saddened! "It's an interesting one, hopefully it gives the unvaccinated players another reason to have the jabs. But isn't that ultimately discrimination? If they found out their star player didn't have the polio vaccine as a child, would they be cut free too? With omicron, it's clearly no more dangerous than flu and perhaps less so, so do all Bulls players need to have a flu vaccine too, or is covid a special case?'"
There are lots of factors at play. He perhaps has a moral view on it. In that he believes that those players not getting jabbed are not fulfilling the ethic of togetherness and looking out for one another he desires. Or that the critical thinking displayed in refusing to be jabbed highlights an inherent weakness of thought he doesn't want at the club. I suspect he's thinking along those lines but that's just my interpretation.
Omicron is a red-herring in my view. It is mild, Delta was not. The next one will be mild, the same or worse. The one constant is that Covid vaccination affords a degree of immunity, and lessons the symptoms of whatever variant hits you. It doesn't really matter what the prevailing variant is that's going around at the minute we are typing.
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| Quote: Pumpetypump "Double standards is where you are able to deal with things equally but opt instead to look less favourably on something for your own gain. This is exactly the opposite of what JK is doing. He's willing to sacrifice our player retention and recruitment because it's the right thing to do, even whilst playing teams that are not taking the same moral stand.'"
20% of your players are being treated unfairly and its also discriminative/ sorry if you dont like or agree with my view/opinion but thats what i think.
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| Quote: knockonknockon "20% of your players are being treated unfairly and its also discriminative/ sorry if you dont like or agree with my view/opinion but thats what i think.'"
You don't have to apologise, I just didn't really understand what you meant but thank you for explaining your view. I understand what you mean now but don't agree. In my view they are being treated entirely fairly. And that ladies in gentleman is how you disagree politely on social media.
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| ATEOTD I trust people who have spent years studying medical science more than some selfish nutjob dweeb on Facebook/YouTube looking for attention.
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| Quote: Willzay "ATEOTD I trust people who have spent years studying medical science more than some selfish nutjob dweeb on Facebook/YouTube looking for attention.'"
You are as naive as anyone then. The scientists have an agenda too. They are all earning massively compared with pre-covid, research levels are through the roof and consultancy and media work is booming. Why give anything other than news that extends the pandemic and maintains their newfound importance? If you play anything down you are reducing your ability to earn money, not many will do that.
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| Quote: Saddened! "You are as naive as anyone then. The scientists have an agenda too. They are all earning massively compared with pre-covid, research levels are through the roof and consultancy and media work is booming. Why give anything other than news that extends the pandemic and maintains their newfound importance? If you play anything down you are reducing your ability to earn money, not many will do that.'"
I don't know whether what you're saying is true but I would say there needs to be a clear distinction between "Scientists" who are part of academia and the scientists who work for the Dept of Health and help inform government policy (as best as they are able). For example I don't think Sir Professor Chris Whitty is capable of having an agenda like you describe.
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| Quote: Pumpetypump "I don't know whether what you're saying is true but I would say there needs to be a clear distinction between "Scientists" who are part of academia and the scientists who work for the Dept of Health and help inform government policy (as best as they are able). For example I don't think Sir Professor Chris Whitty is capable of having an agenda like you describe.'"
Witty is on about £210.000 and Valance is on £185,000, and as you say they are there as public servants to tell it straight, and they are doing a sterling job.
If either were to make something up and use the government platform to generate that something towards feeding their own greedy ends in front of half the population on TV then it would be easily picked up by fellow scientists....
So NOT true, and is NOT happening......
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| Quote: Saddened! "You are as naive as anyone then. The scientists have an agenda too. They are all earning massively compared with pre-covid, research levels are through the roof and consultancy and media work is booming. Why give anything other than news that extends the pandemic and maintains their newfound importance? If you play anything down you are reducing your ability to earn money, not many will do that.'"
A bit like global warming then? Are you saying that's not as serious as the scientists are telling us?
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| Quote: Saddened! "You are as naive as anyone then. The scientists have an agenda too. They are all earning massively compared with pre-covid, research levels are through the roof and consultancy and media work is booming. Why give anything other than news that extends the pandemic and maintains their newfound importance? If you play anything down you are reducing your ability to earn money, not many will do that.'"
Without wishing to sound over zealous, if you believe that the current pandemic Is driven by a handful of evil people who are profiting from conning us you really do need your bumps felt.
Are the 150,000 deaths not real? Was the 120k increase in deaths in 2020 over the prior 10 year average a collusion between a few naughty civil servants in the births deaths and marriages depts?
Covid is real and even if vaccines only offer 50% better immunisation then only selfish conspiracy theorists wouldn't take them because they read some rubbish on the internet.
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| Quote: Saddened! "You are as naive as anyone then. The scientists have an agenda too. They are all earning massively compared with pre-covid, research levels are through the roof and consultancy and media work is booming. Why give anything other than news that extends the pandemic and maintains their newfound importance? If you play anything down you are reducing your ability to earn money, not many will do that.'"
What absolute rubbish.
How do they have an agenda when everything they say or do is scrutinised and peer reviewed?
You’ve been watching too much YouTube
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| Quote: Pumpetypump "I don't know whether what you're saying is true but I would say there needs to be a clear distinction between "Scientists" who are part of academia and the scientists who work for the Dept of Health and help inform government policy (as best as they are able). For example I don't think Sir Professor Chris Whitty is capable of having an agenda like you describe.'"
And herein lies the disaster of the culture wars. Politicised, activist led academia has led to a collapse in trust in information undermining faith in the medical sciences when we need it most. When you come from the first generation after the (near) eradication of TB to hear younger work colleagues say they're not taking the vaccine because they 'don't know what's in it' is really quite saddening.
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| Quote: M@islebugs "And herein lies the disaster of the culture wars. Politicised, activist led academia has led to a collapse in trust in information undermining faith in the medical sciences when we need it most. When you come from the first generation after the (near) eradication of TB to hear younger work colleagues say they're not taking the vaccine because they 'don't know what's in it' is really quite saddening.'"
Those very same people are more than happy to pump their bodies full of narcotics, alcohol and junk food, despite not know what is in all that either
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "Those very same people are more than happy to pump their bodies full of narcotics, alcohol and junk food, despite not know what is in all that either'"
Just been talking to my cousin this morning who's wife has had covid /tested positive about a week or so ago, (my wife also tested positive NY eve and she has an underlying lung condition but luckily being fully jabbed she's been ok).
His wife has been pretty bad with it, and he's working with a 30 Yr old who won't have any jabs be d you don't know what's in them, who smokes 20 a day and dri ks ever day.
Astonishing
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