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| Quote Psychedelic Casual="Psychedelic Casual"In countries where drugs are legalised there is less gang activity, less gang related violence and murders, fewer kidknappings, fewer hospitalisations and deaths because drugs are monitored and are safer, people can be educated more easily and widely on drugs and their use and effects, the NHS/Govt can earn money from their trade.....
There is not once single shred of evidence that the prohibition of drugs is a positive for society. NOT ONE!'"
Exactly this.
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| Quote Mash Butty="Mash Butty"It's time we eradicated this filth out of country and we can start by having blood tests for 3rd party liability insurance for drivers, machinery users and anyone in a "danger to other people" type of job, then politicians, lords, judges and stock brokers. If your not clean you shouldn't be in any of those jobs. If you get caught selling the stuff you go up 3 tax bands for life and bailiffs check the contents of your home every month to see income vs outgoings... after that we might have a chance.'"
Faux Daily Mail outrage noted.
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| Quote TheUnassumingBadger="TheUnassumingBadger"Should players even be tested for recreational drugs? I'd estimate that at least 6 out of 10 Super League players will have snorted coke on a night out during their career. Stupid to get banned for it if you ask me, as long as it isn't performance enhancing then they should be allowed to do what they want.'"
Remember the old 80% of facts are made up on the spot line? Do you have anything to back up your supposition which would make professional rugby players more likely to short come than the general public?
It is sad to think that we have become blaze about the effects of our choices. The Mexican drugs war seems a long way away from a night out on Kings St (I know that will make you chuckle) but the links are real. The easy answer is decriminalization but that simply allows the criminals an outlet for the money that they earn from prostitution and the like. If you want to see what decriminalization looks like have a look at the figures for trafficked girls in the Netherlands or any of the other negatives that encouraging anti-social behaviour creates.
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| Quote Levrier="Levrier" Do you have anything to back up your supposition which would make professional rugby players more likely to short come than the general public?
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It's because of the vast amount of roids they're jacking up and charlie that they're tooting.
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| If the players want to take coke & avoid a positive test all they have to do is forward plan.
But we can all surely agree that some of the players aren't the sharpest knives in the box.
Jeez, we have Jamie Peacock on the B.B.C. Rugby Panel & he's one of the brighter ones.
Forward Planning Boys.
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| I see Schoey and Ryan McGoldrick have had a bit of a twitter spat on this (McGoldrick claiming Schoey is just chasing headlines and a payday). But both pretty much admit it's rife, with McGoldrock also citing performance enhancing as being an issue too - he even claims 'Leeds favourite son' was caught and covered up....
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| Quote Sheldon="Sheldon"Why? The time it's been cut with ket, plant food and gyprock dust it's more damaging. The Dutch have testing kits at nightclubs and the Portuguese have relaxed laws to great effect.
Whatever laws and systems we've got in place clearly aren't working.'" can you tell me what benefits you see in recreational drugs like cocaine other than the dealer making money from someones expense,
I can see a controlled usage within medicinal no different to morphine, alcohol has similar effects when consumed in excess but nothing like the usage of cocaine
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| Quote snowie="snowie"can you tell me what benefits you see in recreational drugs like cocaine other than the dealer making money from someones expense,
I can see a controlled usage within medicinal no different to morphine, alcohol has similar effects when consumed in excess but nothing like the usage of cocaine'"
Alcohol is a recreational drug. Whatever benefits in principal you would argue for in favour of alcohol would be arguable for any recreational drug.
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| A bad pint will give you the 5hits , a bad dose of cocaine could kill you
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"A bad pint will give you the 5hits , a bad dose of cocaine could kill you'"
Which is a good reason for legalising and regulating cocaine to ensure standards of purity.
Alcohol is the biggest risk factor for death, ill health and disability amongst 18-49 year olds. 70% of all violent crime on a weekend or night is alcohol related, 64% of all stranger violence is alcohol related. 704k violent crimes where the offender was under the influence of alcohol, which is 53% of all violent crime.
1.1m hospital admissions a year are due to alcohol related illness or injury, 339k hospital admissions because of alcohol overdose.
over 600k alcoholics in the uk, around 10k deaths per year from alcohol overdose or alcohol related illness. Alcohol related crime costs the country 13billion, alcohol related illness costs the NHS another 3.5billion.
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| Quote GUBRATS="GUBRATS"A bad pint will give you the 5hits , a bad dose of cocaine could kill you'"
Well actually if a pint was mixed with a number of dangerous chemicals it certainly could kill you. Thankfully we have a system by which it's production and distribution is regulated to make it as safe as possible. If we, as a society, knew that alcohol was being served with life threatening chemicals but chose not to regulate it and resisted any attempts to make it safer that would make us pretty bonkers wouldn't it?
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Which is a good reason for legalising and regulating cocaine to ensure standards of purity.
Alcohol is the biggest risk factor for death, ill health and disability amongst 18-49 year olds. 70% of all violent crime on a weekend or night is alcohol related, 64% of all stranger violence is alcohol related. 704k violent crimes where the offender was under the influence of alcohol, which is 53% of all violent crime.
1.1m hospital admissions a year are due to alcohol related illness or injury, 339k hospital admissions because of alcohol overdose.
over 600k alcoholics in the uk, around 10k deaths per year from alcohol overdose or alcohol related illness. Alcohol related crime costs the country 13billion, alcohol related illness costs the NHS another 3.5billion.'"
This is getting to sound like the old school essay "If alcohol was a new product it would not be licensed" discuss. Alcohol is a dangerous thing that for cultural reasons we accept but try to minimise the risk of. The problem is that the alcohol argument muddies any discussion of other recreational drugs.
In California they have just licensed weed for public sale but without any of the health warnings that have to go on tobacco and alcohol packaging or the easy ability to detect use in drivers. You would think that we would let the scientific evidence of the dangers drive our thinking but that is not the case. Too often we simply give in to those who shout loudest or have the biggest cheque books or whatever is easiest.
It is very difficult to stop people using recreational drugs. Perhaps this thread should split in two. On One hand there are issues associated with recreational use and on the other hand the performance enhancing/changing aspect. I use performance changing because some of the meatheads going into the pitch pumped just become a danger to others rather than getting any better.
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