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| Anyhow in answer to the orginal post, supposedly there is some mutterings about a deal to redevelop Belle Vue that will be agreed in January next year.
Sadly I'll believe it when I'm stood in it.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"If they can't buy it how can they artificially raise the price?
Like everything people make bids for what they can afford, if the highest bidder walks then it goes to the next one. If there are only two interested parties than Chambers only has to offer want he wants/can and wait for Carter and Hudgell to walk away.'"
So they can either force the buyer to pay what they deem to be the market value or to use as pressure against the RFL in the media by saying they are selling it below the value of other bids (ie theirs).
There is no other reason for Carter & Hudgell to bid on it.
Either way, they shouldn’t be doing it.
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| Quote Him="Him"So they can either force the buyer to pay what they deem to be the market value or to use as pressure against the RFL in the media by saying they are selling it below the value of other bids (ie theirs).
There is no other reason for Carter & Hudgell to bid on it.
Either way, they shouldn’t be doing it.'"
Do you think they have because I do not I think it is fake news of someone who has nothing better to do
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| Quote Someday="Someday"Do you think they have because I do not I think it is fake news of someone who has nothing better to do
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You seriously think the owner of Bradford has gone to the trouble of inexplicably writing a long and fictional tale? What really? I think running Bradford is unlikely to leave him in the "nothing better to do" category. Thats a bit too Donald Trump for me.
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| Quote Someday="Someday"Do you think they have because I do not I think it is fake news of someone who has nothing better to do
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This is all coming from a fairly reputable RL journo.
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| Quote Someday="Someday"Do you think they have because I do not I think it is fake news of someone who has nothing better to do
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I think they have. Looks like some owners of the smaller SL clubs worried about Bradford getting themselves back to the top tier and wanting to make life hard as possible for them. This is just another tactic to try safeguard a SL spot IMO just like Carter doesn’t want the SC to rise nor a fan of marquee signings because he knows his club can’t compete financially and hence him saying clubs shouldn’t be allowed to make marquee signings if they don’t run reserves.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"I think they have. Looks like some owners of the smaller SL clubs worried about Bradford getting themselves back to the top tier and wanting to make life hard as possible for them. This is just another tactic to try safeguard a SL spot IMO just like Carter doesn’t want the SC to rise nor a fan of marquee signings because he knows his club can’t compete financially and hence him saying clubs shouldn’t be allowed to make marquee signings if they don’t run reserves.'"
Yeah, it's obviously that lol, explain why would Trinity be worried about Bradford eventually getting promoted, I can't remember being worried last time they were in SL, even when they did well. The only thing Trinity has to worry against is being demoted Also isn't Hetherington against the rise of the cap and was against marquee, wasn't he?
ATEOTD even though the some are making it out to be something it may not be, why not wait until someone other than a journalist talks about it, especially since this has supposedly been going on since June or so and they are wrong so very many times about things.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"I think they have. Looks like some owners of the smaller SL clubs worried about Bradford getting themselves back to the top tier and wanting to make life hard as possible for them. This is just another tactic to try safeguard a SL spot IMO just like Carter doesn’t want the SC to rise nor a fan of marquee signings because he knows his club can’t compete financially and hence him saying clubs shouldn’t be allowed to make marquee signings if they don’t run reserves.'"
IF (and it's a big if) Odsal was being off loaded on the cheap, why not have a pop.
If I had more than a few gold bottle tops, I might have thought about it
Remember, the iconic stadium, with it's peppercorn rent was "bought" for 700k ?? and then rented back to Braford at "market price" - due to it's "iconic status" and all done to artificially pump cash into the cash strapped club.
This was wrong at the time, effectively gifting the club a huge amount of cash.
It proved not enough to save the Bulls at the time and what would be wrong, would be for them to receive yet another "gift", were the lease to be given back to them on the cheap.
At the risk of stirring the Odsal pot further, just how much is the "commercial rent" on such an iconic ground ?
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| Quote Shifty Cat="Shifty Cat"Yeah, it's obviously that lol, explain why would Trinity be worried about Bradford eventually getting promoted, I can't remember being worried last time they were in SL, even when they did well. The only thing Trinity has to worry against is being demoted Also isn't Hetherington against the rise of the cap and was against marquee, wasn't he?
ATEOTD even though the some are making it out to be something it may not be, why not wait until someone other than a journalist talks about it, especially since this has supposedly been going on since June or so and they are wrong so very many times about things.'"
Hetherington's tune is very much changed if I'm not mistaken. And it's Bradford's chairman who has raised this who, it can be safely assumed, knows the score better than any journo. Hopefully Carter and hudgell will see fit to clarify what, if anything, they've been up to.
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| Quote ThePrinter="ThePrinter"Absolutely spot on. Carter being appointed to look into how RFL spend their money DOESN’T at all equate to his actions. Trying to act like this is a natural obvious course of action for someone in his position is BS.
Another poster said “would I be saying the same if it was GH”.....well would you and other Wakefield fans be defending these actions if it WASN’T Carter or if it was another owner doing it to Wakefield and Belle Vue? No you wouldn’t so all it seems to be is Wakey fans seeing Carter through rose tinted glasses and finding excuses for his actions.'"
I can only speak for myself but if it was GH who was in Cater's position, I'd very much put it down to what I said before, he's doing his job for the RFL. GH like Carter has shown he's got a good reputation and GH is a very good Chairman of Leeds, who's done an awesome job there, someone that I actually respect in the game and so wouldn't be jumping to all kinds of dodgy scenarios. obviously, you have different feelings about carter. If this was GH, you and the rest of the Leeds posters would be doing exactly the same as the Trinity posters are, you'd be lying to say otherwise.
Also, let's be honest before the Bradford fan brought it up on this thread, hardly anyone outside the bulls gave a monkeys about it.
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| Quote Clearwing="Clearwing"Hetherington's tune is very much changed if I'm not mistaken. And it's Bradford's chairman who has raised this who, it can be safely assumed, knows the score better than any journo. Hopefully Carter and hudgell will see fit to clarify what, if anything, they've been up to.'"
In his piece in the T & A where he's getting his informmation from is very vague with quotes like ,
Quote ClearwingTHERE was news reported this week suggesting that two Super League club chairman were intent on buying our home here at Odsal Stadium. '"
Quote ClearwingNow we hear reports that they want to buy Odsal Stadium!
Rather than creeping around making clandestine approaches to the RFL, Mr Carter should explain his actions'"
To me he's going off journalists reports, it even says that tbh.
At the end of the say it will all come out and if we have a fans meeting I'm sure it will come up.
I thought GH has changed his tune on Marquee, since you now have a couple but haven't read anything about the Cap.
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| Quote Shifty Cat="Shifty Cat"Yeah, it's obviously that lol, explain why would Trinity be worried about Bradford eventually getting promoted, I can't remember being worried last time they were in SL, even when they did well. The only thing Trinity has to worry against is being demoted Also isn't Hetherington against the rise of the cap and was against marquee, wasn't he?
ATEOTD even though the some are making it out to be something it may not be, why not wait until someone other than a journalist talks about it, especially since this has supposedly been going on since June or so and they are wrong so very many times about things.'"
Toronto aren’t in SL but doesn’t stop the same few clubs being worried, likewise Leigh for the couple of seasons before they finally got promoted in 2016 it was the same couple of clubs complaining about them trying to find faults and criticisms of them. A strong Bradford back in SL would be a bigger club than those that seem to be involving themselves in their affairs.
Hetherington was against marquee and the cap. But as I mentioned several weeks ago I don’t think it’s a coincidence that we’ve gone for marquee signings as soon as the stadium work has been sorted and is coming to completion. Think he was against spending whilst we had the ongoing issue of getting the stadium finally green light and done. Now we have he can change his tune (and he doesn’t even really have to now with Sinfield in place to be the face of the place). Call it self interest, hypocritical or underhand but really just smart to suit his club at the time........the exact thing any other owner or CEO main thought is when dealing in any of these SL meetings and RFL.
Carter will still have his Wakefield hat on in this role he’s been given to look at RFL, no one should be naive to think otherwise, like I said any other guy in his place would do similar. Doesn’t make him a bad guy but some people trying to portray his actions like his some longing riding in on a white horse are kidding themselves.
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