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| Quote: littlerich "If I was an investor wrapped in 2 straight jackets with 2 pencils up both nostrils I wouldn't touch London Broncos with a barge pole. Where the f**k have you been for the last five years???
They're called benefactors sunshine, not investors.'"
They need an investor who will be hands on some one like koukash not a benefactor. They have potentially the largest fan base by far, largest playing pool and can offer a massive incentive living in London. all in all the right amount of money and man power they could be a force, if they settle for just survival then it will just repeat.
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| Quote: dubairl "They need an investor who will be hands on some one like koukash not a benefactor. They have potentially the largest fan base by far, largest playing pool and can offer a massive incentive living in London. all in all the right amount of money and man power they could be a force, if they settle for just survival then it will just repeat.'"
Koukash is still a benefactor, not an investor. At least I hope for Salford's sake that's how he sees it, because he doesn't have a cat in hell's chance of making money out of an RL club, the same as any other chairman.
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| EAT, SLEEP, LONDON RL, REPEAT, EAT, SLEEP, LONDON RL,REPEAT
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| Quote: Nothus "Koukash is still a benefactor, not an investor. At least I hope for Salford's sake that's how he sees it, because he doesn't have a cat in hell's chance of making money out of an RL club, the same as any other chairman.'"
seriously a benefactor would hand over money that is it koukash is doing a lot more than just that and London need some one the same.
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| Quote: dubairl "seriously a benefactor would hand over money that is it koukash is doing a lot more than just that and London need some one the same.'"
You are missing the point.
Investor - one who lays out money or capital in an enterprise with the expectation of profit.
Benefactor - one who supports a person or institution by GIVING money.
Subtle difference.
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| Quote: Fax Machine "You are missing the point.
Investor - one who lays out money or capital in an enterprise with the expectation of profit.
Benefactor - one who supports a person or institution by GIVING money.
Subtle difference.'"
the subtle difference is that they are a rugby league club and can turn over a profit if run right. just because at present they don't doesn't mean they can't. anybody who has the right money and gets the right people and are willing to work hard can make London successful. Or whats the point to carry on bothering with a team that relies heavily on hand outs and has no ambition to do better?
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| I see that one of the London "exiles" Rugger teams has been taken over by 4 Irish investors.
There is so much that can be read into that story.
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| Quote: exiles "I see that one of the London "exiles" Rugger teams has been taken over by 4 Irish investors.
There is so much that can be read into that story.'"
What like there is actually 3 or 5 of them rather than 4?
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| I find this London XXX a total embarrassment towards Superleague, they have been in decline for 19 years now. How many false dawns do we need to absorb, when in reality the borough of London doesn't want a professional rugby league team.
We all know it would need the London Rugby Union teams to go out of existence to give London XXX a chance, better odds of winning the lottery.
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| Quote: j.c "It would be better if,after a period of consolidation,they out grow this ground'"
In all seriousness I hope not. If they move again in five to ten years . All that would do is ruin any base they have consolidated. I London is not a sporting area. People dont support London,they support an area of London. For a London side to progress fan wise they need buy in from the place where they play. Whilst you will pull people in from other areas. You have to keep you base in one place. Name me any 2 topflight teams in any sport with as many combined moves as London in the last 20 year's. Certainly in SL. Leeds never moved. Wigan once and about 1mile. Saints 2moves. Warrington 1 move. Hull 1 move. Etc you get the point.
Moving does not breed fans.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "In all seriousness I hope not. If they move again in five to ten years . All that would do is ruin any base they have consolidated. I London is not a sporting area. People dont support London,they support an area of London. For a London side to progress fan wise they need buy in from the place where they play. Whilst you will pull people in from other areas. You have to keep you base in one place. Name me any 2 topflight teams in any sport with as many combined moves as London in the last 20 year's. Certainly in SL. Leeds never moved. Wigan once and about 1mile. Saints 2moves. Warrington 1 move. Hull 1 move. Etc you get the point.
Moving does not breed fans.'"
In fairness, I don't think that London are moving to breed fans, they have always moved for other reasons.
You are absolutely right about the London thing though, they would be better off becoming the Barnet Broncos and try and create a stronger identity.
In the pats, whilst speaking to London fans, we found that many of them are displaced Northerners, who already enjoy the game, plus a good number of Aussie, the locals were actually in the minority and this is the issue that they need to overcome.
I'm not sure about the work that The Broncos do in the community but, surely they need to draw fans form the junior and amateur game down there ?
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| Quote: bewareshadows "In all seriousness I hope not. If they move again in five to ten years . All that would do is ruin any base they have consolidated. I London is not a sporting area. People dont support London,they support an area of London. For a London side to progress fan wise they need buy in from the place where they play. Whilst you will pull people in from other areas. You have to keep you base in one place. Name me any 2 topflight teams in any sport with as many combined moves as London in the last 20 year's. Certainly in SL. Leeds never moved. Wigan once and about 1mile. Saints 2moves. Warrington 1 move. Hull 1 move. Etc you get the point.
Moving does not breed fans.'"
This is partly down to the RFL wanting the London signature so that they can say we have expanded the game down to the Capital.
I still say we should have invested and developed the game into the Midlands area not too far away from the North of England stronghold, instead of this persistent lost cause of creating a professional team in such an isolated area rugby league wise. Trying to compete fan wise against Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham etc under a London banner will never work.
In saying that the Union clubs London Harlequins and London Irish have that banner but they are not nomadic in nature.
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| Quote: "London Irish have that banner but they are not nomadic in nature.'"
Has Reading always been there home? What about London wasps and Saracens
Quote: "Moving does not breed fans.'"
Does it not? Have a look at a number of clubs that have moved grounds, Wire, Hull.....
Quote: "developed the game into the Midlands area '"
What's the difference between the Midlands and London other than London has more people, is the media capital of England as it is the financial capital. If Football clubs are the threat have you forgotten about, Wolves, Aston Villa, WBA, Walsall, B'ham.....
The bottom line is London has been poorly managed. No investment in Marketing etc
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| Quote: wire quin "Has Reading always been there home? What about London wasps and Saracens'"
I thought that what with you being from London and us being thick northern monkeys you had a mind immeasurably superior to ours?
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| Quote: bewareshadows "In all seriousness I hope not. If they move again in five to ten years . All that would do is ruin any base they have consolidated. I London is not a sporting area. People dont support London,they support an area of London. For a London side to progress fan wise they need buy in from the place where they play. Whilst you will pull people in from other areas. You have to keep you base in one place. Name me any 2 topflight teams in any sport with as many combined moves as London in the last 20 year's. Certainly in SL. Leeds never moved. Wigan once and about 1mile. Saints 2moves. Warrington 1 move. Hull 1 move. Etc you get the point.
Moving does not breed fans.'"
I agree the best thing to happen is for them to stay were they are.
If that is the long term plan then i think they need guarantees that the stadium can and will be developed if or when needed
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