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| They should kick out all clubs east of the pennines. How can you expect Yorkshire folk to travel that far? Only so much petrol the pit wage will pay for!
There are many reasons why Salford and London may not have a long term future in SL but travelling fans are not one.
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| East of the pennines? I agree 
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Club Owner | 36156 | Wakefield Trinity |
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"so, maximum 60k......reality is about 30k a year.....from a minimum 4 million turn over.
....I repeat about 1% of a clubs turn over.........hardly a game changer and a smoke screen laid by COE'sand Chairmen who failed to deliver on promises they made'"
If you think any club can afford to lose 60k then you are far dumber than you already appear. What the hell a 4m pound turnover has to do with it is beyond me. In what way does that mean you can afford to lose money. If that 4m is all spent up then 60k is the difference between profit and loss or a players wage - what a monumental lack of understanding you have for basic economics and the state of RL, it's actually quite sad.
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International Board Member | 959 | Huddersfield Giants |
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Catalans and London are not the only teams with "so many Aussies." Take a look at Hull KR, Wakefield, in fact most of the SL clubs except Leeds and Huddersfield are stacked with Aussies and Kiwis. '"
Below are the number of Antipodeans in each club's squad number 1-17s:
Bradford - 5
Cas - 4 (5 if you include Chase)
Catalans - 8 non French, includes some English.
Huddersfield - 3
Hull FC - 5
Hull KR - 8
Leeds - 2
London - 10 (Though to be fair that discounts players such as Sarginson and other local talent not wearing 1-17.)
Salford - 4
Saints - 7
Wakefield - 5
Warrington - 3
Widnes - 7
Wigan - 4
So a bit harsh on Wakefield I'd say to label them as 'awash' with Aussies and Kiwis. And "most" being "stacked"? 9 of 14 have 5 or fewer, with Catalans having 8 which includes some Brits, and whose first 17 squad numbers doesn't include such as Fakir. Aside from London; which I agree is disappointing but at least for the first time that certainly I can remember there seems to actually be some good talent coming through the youth system; I'd say Saints, Hull KR, and Widnes are disappointing. Widnes hopefully will head downwards in number as their SL structures bear fruit. Was a little surprised/disappointed with Saints, who arguably have one of the best academy set ups... Good to see that last years CC winners, LLS winners, and GF winners are 3 of the 4 lowest numbers on the list.
I'd hazard a guess that if you compared that with 10 or even 5 years ago you would find a higher number back then.
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"No....you made a false claim, I showed it to be false and unfounded....in fact, based on a lie. Admit you were shown up and do it with some grace....you had your booty handed to you, end of.
Been there, done that......All I need is an XL T -shirt.
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What are you, about 12? I made a small error after forgetting what I'd posted. Already admitted it. Suggest you calm down.
Quote gutterfaxAway fans are nothing.......they are less than 4% of the TV revenue across the board and less than 1% of the Superleague clubs turn over. I suggest you stop digging and support a second local side so you can have a home game to go to every weekend without leaving your postcode
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Never noticed the sig, muppet? I bet I do more work developing RL locally than you ever have.
Away fans aren't 'nothing'. How would London's home attendances look if we removed all away fans? Even fooking worse than they do now. No that WOULD be embarrassing.
Still had no response on whether SL clubs would prefer good visiting numbers and their cash or half a dozen from London or France? Find me one SL club that would sniff at the 'nothing' figures you've posted. I bet you can't.
Still had no response on why you think the rest of us should have to put up with a lame atmosphere when you come to town - dire numbers, no rivalry, no singing, a team no-one cares about? Even home fans are turned off.
Still had no response on what purpose London serve? Not grounded in any community, no rivalry, no history, no tradition? Just a hollow, soulless team. Most other SL teams have a town or community behind them, years of tradition and rivalry, generations of local fans and players. Not you.
And well done. Single-handedly, your attitude has turned me against London. I've always been willing to give them a go and hope it eventually got somewhere, but now I think "f*ck it, get rid."
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"Still had no response on what purpose London serve? Not grounded in any community, no rivalry, no history, no tradition? Just a hollow, soulless team. Most other SL teams have a town or community behind them, years of tradition and rivalry, generations of local fans and players. Not you.'"
How can you expect a team 30 years old to have "generations" of local fans? There are plenty of sticks to beat London with, but rubbishing them for not sending fans back in time to start loyal Broncos families in the 1900s is not one. And if you really can't see a single benefit from having London in SL then he or anyone else won't be able to convince you there are any.
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| Quote Little Ivor="Little Ivor"How can you expect a team 30 years old to have "generations" of local fans? There are plenty of sticks to beat London with, but rubbishing them for not sending fans back in time to start loyal Broncos families in the 1900s is not one. And if you really can't see a single benefit from having London in SL then he or anyone else won't be able to convince you there are any.'"
If, done *right*, we can't get a team based in one of the world's biggest cities (and full of Aussies too as it happens) with an average home gate of more than 10k then I'm a monkey's uncle. There's nothing whatsoever fundamentally wrong with the idea of a team in London, it's just been messed up time after time. As I've said, if Sky can run a cycling team I'd strongly encourage them to run a Rugby League team too. We need serious professionals to get a grip of the need for a good London club and make it happen with the proper commitment and investment, not the half-baked messing about we seem to have had for decades.
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| Quote RLBandit="RLBandit"If, done *right*, we can't get a team based in one of the world's biggest cities (and full of Aussies too as it happens) with an average home gate of more than 10k then I'm a monkey's uncle. There's nothing whatsoever fundamentally wrong with the idea of a team in London, it's just been messed up time after time. As I've said, if Sky can run a cycling team I'd strongly encourage them to run a Rugby League team too. We need serious professionals to get a grip of the need for a good London club and make it happen with the proper commitment and investment, not the half-baked messing about we seem to have had for decades.'"
Completely agree.
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"[uThey should kick out all clubs east of the pennines[/u. How can you expect Yorkshire folk to travel that far? Only so much petrol the pit wage will pay for!
There are many reasons why Salford and London may not have a long term future in SL but travelling fans are not one.'"
I bet your mates back at Craven Park were thrilled to see that remark. (I do appreciate you MAY be joking).
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| Quote Hessle Roader="Hessle Roader"I bet your mates back at Craven Park were thrilled to see that remark. (I do appreciate you MAY be joking).'"
Meant West of the Pennines, living down under screws with your geography!
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"Meant West of the Pennines, living down under screws with your geography!'"
I should hope you did mean West. Your boys have enough to worry about at the minute.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"And well done. Single-handedly, your attitude has turned me against London. I've always been willing to give them a go and hope it eventually got somewhere, but now I think "f*ck it, get rid."'"
WoW......I should get into politics if I'm that good at changing peoples minds......then again,in your case, there was very little to change in the first place 
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