If he is from Salford than he will have followed the crowd and had him early.


His son is actually 27.

FROM THE EASTERN SUBURBS . probly bondi beach

Peacock and Morley p**s all over your supposedly awesome Cinavaceva and Price. Your forwards arent as good as ours your backs are always whats wins you games against us. Wacthed the NRL this year and Ellis has been good in every game he has settled into the rythm and slower style of play in the NRL

must be the pace in the backs

Morley and Ellis were quality international standard players before they went to Oz. Even Carney walked into the NRL and finished top scorer in the league in his only season there. Im not sure how much it helps our RL having them play over there, maybe the kids for a couple of years but SL is genuinely improving at last so better to hold onto them.

god we are deluding ourselves!

there is not one player i can think of in this years SL thats could do the same as Ellis Morley and Carney

its competative...sure
its exciting......yes
its quality .....er no not from the english players

ffs keith senior is still our best centre
we dont have a stand off in the country
english second rows and loose forwards i think not
not even hookers now cunninghams past his best,

maybe maybe at a pinch james roby, leon price??cant think of any others!

I proffer Peacock, Graham and Burgess.

I also think Brough could if he could keep hes discipline. He has everything size, speed, defence good kicking game and dictates the game. I think Burgess and Peacock could too but i agree our backs are so far behind the Aussies its unreal

Are you joking?

Brough.....quality?


He would be a park footballer over here!

Don't agree with this.



This, however, I think is pretty much spot on.

Unfortunately I don't think it is, and if it is it isn't translating to the International side, the closest we have been to Australia in recent years is 2003 and 2004 but we had an ageing squad, last year was quite frankly embarrassing!

And if the SL is improving and bringing new players through the problem is the NRL is also improving and bringing many more youngsters through.

having said that I do hope that England on their own soild can put in a much improved performance than last year, well it cant get any worse to be fair!

And in 2003 England got swept in that series against probably the worst Australian team and the worst coach Australian team of all time.