What a load of rubbish.

You can pretend you didn't make those arguments if you like. We both know different. At least now everyone accepts and agrees the new structure can and will achieve nothing.

Smokey doing his level best to cripple yet another thread.

You posted any links to those "promises" yet Smokes?

You're wanting to fog-knit about whether a benchmark set in a strategic and operational plan by an organisation charged with running a sport turning over more than £100m a year should be used as an actual benchmark because it isn't a promise but just an 'aspiration' and you want to accuse others of crippling threads?

We can use the actual word the RFL use to describe those benchmarks if you want? The RFL call them [ioutcomes[/i. The system is failing to produce the outcomes the RFL said it would.

Or hoped?

Yes, you do cripple threads, time and time again. You don't 'win' debates, you just bore the other side into submission whilst you spend your time moving the goalposts, changing the wording to suit your agenda and failing to ever acknowledge anyone else's point.

You've cleverly done it there. "Said it would". Did they specific say it would? Definitely? Did they "promise" it?

If you say so precious.

We all agree there is nothing to be expected from the new structure don't we lil' buddy?

I havent done anything, those are the 'outcomes' the RFL gave for the new system. Im happy to call them benchmarks, predictions, expectations, hopes, dreams, stardust and unicorns or whatever you want. But whatever words you choose to try and minimize their importance you are still left with a stark dichotomy. Either the RFL failed to properly research and plan their fundamental change to the games structure, or they did properly research and plan their fundamental change but that change is failing.

Do the RFL not print the ave attendance for the SL Clubs after they've all played their 11 home games.

Nope you've just decided that in your head.

Brilliant, so as we arent judging its success on the metrics set down as the benchmark by the RFL, and we arent to judge it one what you said would be its benefits. Perhaps you can let us know what we are to expect from it?

Here's an idea, judge it how YOU want because that's what you'll do anyway, not what on I say or what the RFL says....if they had met this benchmark you keep going on about you'd still be telling us how bad and awful the system is because that's all you've been doing for 2 years. What I, you and another poster expect from it can all vary between individual so you expect what you want from it, just don't be amazed and dumbfounded that others aren't as full of hate over it as you and no matter how hard you've constantly tried to prove it's failed you'll just have to accept that that's in your eyes and not some fact that is undeniable.

So we are agreed that there is nothing to be expected from the new system then aren't we slugger!

There is literally no objective measure for success you will accept. The bar for success according to your gymnastics is literally nothing.

the one thing the new system does is weed out the 4 worst under-performers of the previous 23 rounds before the next 7 games then weed out the next worst performers.....it then rewards the most consistent and best performing 4 teams with a chance to become Super League Champions.......Who wants the dross finishing lower than halfway in the league (7th or 8th) to become champions.????