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Quote: GUBRATS "Mmmm , very interesting , maybe some clubs have been operating how shall we say ' differently ''"


Why would some clubs be operating differently? They would have to do it in top secret, and they would have nobody to play!

Alternatively, you're thinking of Service Area, which is something very different from scholarship.

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Quote: Saint #1 "Why would some clubs be operating differently? They would have to do it in top secret, and they would have nobody to play!

Alternatively, you're thinking of Service Area, which is something very different from scholarship.'"


The Scholarships didn't play games , it was club organised training

Service areas did play games , my son played in trials for them and his team mates played for them

A gap in your knowledge it would seem

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Quote: GUBRATS "The Scholarships didn't play games , it was club organised training

Service areas did play games , my son played in trials for them and his team mates played for them

A gap in your knowledge it would seem'"


I think you'll find the scholarships do play games, look here for example: www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2010- ... -at-saints

More reecently the Midlands scholarship lads this year played the North East Regional Academy, the Cumbrian Regional Academy and Salford's u16s. Bit strange given scholarships apparently don't play games!

I know how the service areas work, you can only go to trials if you play for an amateur team, go to school or live in that area. As I said, a bit different to scholarships.
Quote: GUBRATS "The Scholarships didn't play games , it was club organised training

Service areas did play games , my son played in trials for them and his team mates played for them

A gap in your knowledge it would seem'"


I think you'll find the scholarships do play games, look here for example: www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2010- ... -at-saints

More reecently the Midlands scholarship lads this year played the North East Regional Academy, the Cumbrian Regional Academy and Salford's u16s. Bit strange given scholarships apparently don't play games!

I know how the service areas work, you can only go to trials if you play for an amateur team, go to school or live in that area. As I said, a bit different to scholarships.


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Quote: Gadger "Well done. I hope you feel great'"


I doubt that "Great" is the correct term but it is "Nice" to know that the Sky money earmarked for Academy + the club's contributions + fans contributions to the Club Lottery are bearing some fruit.
It's keeping hold of them that will be "Great"

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Quote: GUBRATS "Mmmm , very interesting , maybe some clubs have been operating how shall we say ' differently ''"


Yes they have - anyone who tells you that clubs don't approach coaches and/or parents before the deadline is either naïve, or a liar.

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Quote: Gadger "Well done. I hope you feel great'"


Feels tonnes better than scrapping the academy to no doubt sign an expensive overseas pensioner.

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Quote: bren2k "Yes they have - anyone who tells you that clubs don't approach coaches and/or parents before the deadline is either naïve, or a liar.'"

I wouldn't disagree with that, but that's not what Gubrats was saying, he was saying academy's were signing up players at 11/12 years of age.
There has been an element of professional club training for players of these ages for a few years, it's so they can have a closer look at these lads a bit earlier and it is a system I am totally apposed to, one team in particular that I was involved with won everything at U12 & U13's in 2011-2013, however 7 of them were in (and this is the term used by the pro club) and "elite training squad" which not Only made the lads a bit cock sure of themselves, it made the parents believe that these lads were future internationals and totally ruined the team and match day atmosphere. All 7 left he club as soon as they started to lose games, blaming the "non elite" players/parents and coaches left. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: financialtimes "I wouldn't disagree with that, but that's not what Gubrats was saying, he was saying academy's were signing up players at 11/12 years of age.
There has been an element of professional club training for players of these ages for a few years, it's so they can have a closer look at these lads a bit earlier and it is a system I am totally apposed to, one team in particular that I was involved with won everything at U12 & U13's in 2011-2013, however 7 of them were in (and this is the term used by the pro club) and "elite training squad" which not Only made the lads a bit cock sure of themselves, it made the parents believe that these lads were future internationals and totally ruined the team and match day atmosphere. All 7 left he club as soon as they started to lose games, blaming the "non elite" players/parents and coaches left.
Nowhere have I mentioned academies , I specifically stated Scholarships , now as you suggest the clubs might have been using the term ' elite training squad ' officially , but they were using the term ' Scholarship ' to the players and parents

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Quote: GUBRATS "Nowhere have I mentioned academies , I specifically stated Scholarships , now as you suggest the clubs might have been using the term ' elite training squad ' officially , but they were using the term ' Scholarship ' to the players and parents'"

OIC, my bad, my (and probably others) interpretation of what a "scholarship" is, is that it is the financial support of a learning criteria (given by a school/college/university or even an academy)
Sorry for the misinterpretation a014.gif
So what you were actually saying is that "some" clubs were totall missleading kids in to thinking they were getting a financially supported learning environment icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: financialtimes "OIC, my bad, my (and probably others) interpretation of what a "scholarship" is, is that it is the financial support of a learning criteria (given by a school/college/university or even an academy)
Sorry for the misinterpretation
In RL terms ( specifically the Pro clubs ) the term Scholarship was just an initial agreement between club and player prior to entry into academy ( were financial support , ie payment was made ) , but you know this

All of little relevance

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Quote: GUBRATS "In RL terms ( specifically the Pro clubs ) the term Scholarship was just an initial agreement between club and player prior to entry into academy ( were financial support , ie payment was made ) , but you know this

All of little relevance'"


Maybe in your world, but scholarship means scholarship icon_thumb.gif

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So is Starbug still trying to convince everyone that it isnt the clubs who don't run academies fault that they dont run academies, its because of the clubs who do? Has he tried to blame the RFL for Leigh not running an academy yet?

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Quote: GUBRATS "Of the three only one was running one this season , and in 2018 the promoted club this season intend on running one

So essentially one seasons loss'"


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Quote: GUBRATS "Of the three only one was running one this season , and in 2018 the promoted club this season intend on running one

So essentially one seasons loss'"

Yes if we ignore the two who have stopped running an academy and pretend the one who hasnt for years, is running one, its not a problem at all.

Im sure we can expect the same excuses from you for Leigh as we saw from you for Hull KR about the time it takes to set up an academy, the time it takes to bring players through, that they need to prioritise the first team for now, and why a decade later they still havent brought through anyone of note.

Hey perhaps in that time Leigh will be relegated again and Hull KR promoted and the whole cycle of excuses can start again

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Yes if we ignore the two who have stopped running an academy and pretend the one who hasnt for years, is running one, its not a problem at all.

Im sure we can expect the same excuses from you for Leigh as we saw from you for Hull KR about the time it takes to set up an academy, the time it takes to bring players through, that they need to prioritise the first team for now, and why a decade later they still havent brought through anyone of note.

Hey perhaps in that time Leigh will be relegated again and Hull KR promoted and the whole cycle of excuses can start again'"


Two haven't stopped , one has , and as I just pointed out the one who hasn't for the last couple of years ' intends to do so in 2018

And yes they might be , or they might not , or an asteroid might destroy the planet , or a huge Volcanic eruption

Who knows eh ?

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