I have no problem with where anyone comes from. Its where Vastpants is now, and who he is now that is the stereotype that makes me laugh.
And my point was it was irrelevant, Cas were relegated because they finished in a relegation position, that’s it. Wigan overspending is no more relevant to that than St’s and Bradford breaking the SC, or Wakefield, or Hull. There were 10 other (relevant) teams in that League, Cas only needed to finish ahead of one of them, they failed so they were relegated.

Whatever punishment the RFL dished out to Wigan wouldn’t have made that years Cas side any better.

True enough, however, if they (The RFL) had realised that by Wigan signing Dobson would take them over the cap, it would have made the Wigan side worse, if the transfer had been refused, and I presume that’s why the “live cap” was introduced.

Wigan got Noble, Dobson and Fielden - we got Whitehaven, Batley and Oldham (no disrespect).

It wasn’t that it took them over the cap, because it didn’t, Wigan didn’t go over the cap. What they did was renegotiate contracts with players for lower wages that year, and higher wages the next. Not in itself against the cap at that time. Afterwards the RFL decided that it was a deliberate attempt to circumvent the cap, outlawed it and retrospectively punished Wigan

So they cheated and its OK because its Wigan, they would not have been relegated and Hull KR would have had to suffer, but a cheat is a cheat, and Wigan did Just that, they also brought Radlinski back, but he played for the love of it, Cas tried to sign Dobson and weren't allowed, but Wigan signed him, it did not mater that they were at the cap at the start of the season, but if you condone cheating then fare enough.

Can somebody clarify something? i thought there was something in the SL licencing that meant that ground sharing wasnt allowed. In fact i heard that had Langtree Park not been completed for the 2012 season, St helens had to move out of the Stobart on Widnes admission into SL (although sharing with Wigan at the DW was OK as Wigan actually only "rent the space"icon_wink.gif. Would any ground sharing between Castleford and Wakefield therefore only take place if they both rented from ANO?

Somkey, you appear to have a selective memory.
When Noble took over at Wigan, they were in deep mire and but for drivina a bus throught the salary cap they would have finished bottom of the pile.
They bought Fielden from Bradford and good old Radlinski played for nowt and they then crawled up to third from bottom but, without their overspend they looked naild on wooden spoon winners and to top off their rule bending they managed to employ smarter lawyers than the RFL and have thier points deduction halved on a technicality.
Of course Cas were poor that year but if they had added Fielden and Radlinski to their squad, i'm sure you would have seen an improvement.

No, but it could/should have made that year's Wigan side worse. That surely can't be that difficult to understand?

Teams don't always need to get better to move up the league. Other teams can get worse.

The ground at Newmarket will be a community stadium and certainly not owned by Wakefield Trinity.
They do have an agreement to be anchor tennants, however, it is extremely likely that other sports will be played there, with Wakefield City FC being lined up to play there and why not have Cas sharing ?
Having said that, their supporters aren't too keen to watch their "home" games at Wakefield, just as Wakefield fans didn't want to see their "home" games at the proposed Glasshoughton Stadium.
IMO, IF either team was to share the others stadium, there would be further pressure for a merger, which again, neither sets of supporters are in favour of.

And that has nothing to do with how bad Cas were.

Saints, Bradford and Hull have also broken the Salary Cap, that also has nothing to do with how bad Cas's playing record has been in the professional era.

None of Wigans breaking of the cap does anything to mitigate how poor Cas’s playing record is.

An argument that says Cas’s playing record might be possibly, slightly better by default if something other than what actually happened, happened and Wigan were worse than they were in reality, is an embarrassingly poor argument

Hey Smokey, did they go over the cap or not, I’m confused?

They were punished for rules retroactively enforced. So yes and no.

You are a card .

Back on topic, are you looking forwards to going to Newmarket, with a slight tinge of sadness for Belle Vue?

Or are you secretly seething that Trinity are still in the game?