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| The common opinion of Atkins seems to be that he isnt 'brilliant'.... he has spent alot of this season injured. But if we compare his stats lasts season to Cudjoes this season the contrast is a stark one.
I would also swap Atkins for Watkins.... i wouldn't swap him for Cudjoe though. Not a chance.
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| Quote: morleys_deckchair "The common opinion of Atkins seems to be that he isnt 'brilliant'.... he has spent alot of this season injured. But if we compare his stats lasts season to Cudjoes this season the contrast is a stark one.
I would also swap Atkins for Watkins.... i wouldn't swap him for Cudjoe though. Not a chance.'"
warrington were going all out to win every game that season though huddersfield were not
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| Quote: brearley84 "warrington were going all out to win every game that season though huddersfield were not
you're thinking of 2011
also, those are cudjoes stats from THIS season.
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| Yeah, Huddersfield have been sauntering through the season all year
FWIW I wouldn't swap Atkins for Cudjoe either
Basically Watkins looks flash but his all round game lets him down, especially defence, but he is still at the Leeds favoured attacking side
Atkins benefited from a team in great form all season whose preference was to attack down his side
Cudjoe doesn't catch the eye so much (I guess his MoM performance v Leeds in the cup doesn't count) - probably due to him being on the opposite side to Broughs attack but despite this his stats stack up pretty well
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| Quote: Code13 "Yeah, Huddersfield have been sauntering through the season all year
Watkins is a far better player than you describe.
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| Quote: Code13 "First off, let me say I am a fan of Watkins, and Moon at Leeds, both are quality centres but I've got to come out and set the marker down
Lets see what the stats say about Cudjoe v Watkins
8 tries v 14
13 try assists v 7
8.1m v 7.8m av gain
29 v 23 offloads
73 v 52 tackle busts
12 v 16 clean breaks
507 tackles v 273
31 misses v 32
17 errors v 23
81 marker tackles v 47
So 10 stats
8/2 to Cudjoe
Cudjoe is better by every measure than Watkins and after watching Cudjoe since he debued for the giants has developed into a very very classy centre'"
These stats are ridiculous. Have you not read that Watkins is criminally under used by a poor Leeds coach. By contrast Cudjoe is the main strike weapon in a good Huddersfield team.
Personally I think Cudjoe is brilliant by the way, just those stats are completely irrelevant.
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| Quote: Gotcha "These stats are ridiculous. Have you not read that Watkins is criminally under used by a poor Leeds coach. By contrast Cudjoe is the main strike weapon in a good Huddersfield team.
Personally I think Cudjoe is brilliant by the way, just those stats are completely irrelevant.'"
Giants use cudjoe as a main strike weapon?!
obviously not seen much of huddersfield and the attack this season then
infact i doubt many on here have seen much of cudjoe at all apart from the odd game on sky and england games...doesnt get the same exposure as watkins at leeds who are on more often and sky drool over them.
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| Both Cudjoe and Watkins are big, athletic, powerful players and I hope they terrorise the Aussies in November.
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| Quote: keighley1 "Both Cudjoe and Watkins are big, athletic, powerful players and I hope they terrorise the Aussies in November.'"
It will be interesting to see how Inglis and Morris/Jennings handle the British centres.
Cudjoe 190cm 102Kg
Watkins 185cm 90Kg
Morris 182cm 86Kg
Jennings 180cm 94Kg
Inglis 195cm 106Kg
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| That's quite interesting...
Both Watkins and Cudjoe are very powerful and to see the have the measure of the Aussie centres is quite an eyeopener
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| how good was cudjoe lastnight!
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Quote: Code13 "That's quite interesting...
Both Watkins and Cudjoe are very powerful and to see the have the measure of the Aussie centres is quite an eyeopener'"
It will be a classic confrontation.
youtu.be/IpxVmWHZd4E
How good is Inglis where he stops a Test Winger 1 yard from the line and strips the ball from him and passes it back to his team mates in his in goal.
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Quote: Code13 "That's quite interesting...
Both Watkins and Cudjoe are very powerful and to see the have the measure of the Aussie centres is quite an eyeopener'"
It will be a classic confrontation.
youtu.be/IpxVmWHZd4E
How good is Inglis where he stops a Test Winger 1 yard from the line and strips the ball from him and passes it back to his team mates in his in goal.
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| Quote: Buggo "It will be a classic confrontation.
He's a good player, but one of the tackles in that video is a massive forearm to the head and another has the ref blowing for a penalty in the background. The repeated shot of the guy flying through the air is him handing off a small scrum half.
Not disputing that he's class, or that he might be too much for our centres, but that video looks like an agent's showreel
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| Quote: Chris28 "He's a good player, but one of the tackles in that video is a massive forearm to the head and another has the ref blowing for a penalty in the background. The repeated shot of the guy flying through the air is him handing off a small scrum half.
Not disputing that he's class, or that he might be too much for our centres, but that video looks like an agent's showreel'"
It is a fan highlight reel from youtube, that is obvious. It is from a series of "Hardest Hitters"
That is correct but several of the players he smashes backwards in tackles are Forwards.
He is one of the biggest players on the field and although he may have slowed slightly at 26 he is still one of the best Athletes in the game.
He will not be "frightened or fear" Watkins, Cudjoe or Sam Burgess.
Its not in Australian players makeup to worry or "fear" other opposing players, its a challenge to come out on top.
No Aussies feared Sam Tomkins in the last Test series, they set a game plan to deal with him and in the main it nullified him to the point he was looking to pass the ball from the deep.
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| No one said he'd fear them but that they might be a match for him
Yeah he is a massive player, but he isn't that much bigger of heavier than Cudjoe apparently and in case you missed Sundays game Cudjoe was swatting players off all over too
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