Ryan Bailey is the greatest wind up merchant in the world. People bang on about how he goes hiding etc. He goes hiding after sparking something off so the opposition can't get a return hit on him, not because he's soft but before he knows it'l put the opposition off their game plan.

I wouldn't swap Ryan for anyone.

Get a grip. So if you were offered Bailey for Burgess in a straight swap? Or Bailey for Graham? Or Bailey for Bailey (NRL stylee)? Or Bailey for Morley? Or Bailey for LMS? Or Bailey for Price?

You're having a giraffe.



When things go slightly off course at Leeds, like the annual exit from the Challenge Cup, he is the first name Leeds fans look to in order to blame the defeats on someone. Yet when you win the GF, it's because Ryan was 'immense'.

I bet he did no more than 5 hit ups in the GF, and I bet he walked more metres to pick up his medal than he made during the game.

it wasnt though was it

Sculthorpe was more than capable of unleashing a couple of beauties, but those really werent. A Punch at a player playing the ball that simply knocked the player into the player behind him wasnt Sculthorpes proudest moment.

Look at him against Australia (Fitzgibbon i think) to see Sculthorpe unleash a couple of beauties, his handbags against Bailey wouldnt even merit a mention if it wasnt Bailey he had hit.

There you go again mis-quoting no-one has said we won the GF'S because of him nor that he's the best prop around


He played well in those games but none of you Bailey haters will admit that you'd just prefer to chelp about what you think he is.
As for his hit-ups in the last GF watch it again and watch how batters your mob in defence and virtually walks over the invisible man.

The key word here is team, obviously. Ryan Bailey may not be the best individual prop around, but his job in the team that's won the last 3 GF's is pretty well-defined. Most of the the better individual props named will probably never win 4 GF winners medals for as long as they play.

I think that's what the Stains fans are having trouble grasping. Hope this helps.

If James Graham or Sam Burgess were prepared to come to Leeds for Bailey's supposed salary then yes, I'd consider swapping him them.

Then again, salary cap management isn't the sort of thing that St Helens have got a very good grasp of really is it?

Laugh all you like. It speaks volumes that you'd select a pack of perennial grand final losers over a player who knows his job and does it week in week out for the last 7 years.



So what you're really saying is the Leeds pack havent all been fit for the last 7 years and that;s why he gets in.

Tell me why he still keeps getting a new contract at the games premier club if he's so crap?

That was funny

Sculthorpe had many free punches and still couldn't put Bailey on his backside.

Rob Burrow, nuff said.

It's funny how some players can get such a reaction and make even the most rational posters froth at the mouth (Fearthevee for example - I expect better from you

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Anyway the pick of this thread are these too wondrous peices of logic...



Eh

but they don't have to pick any player they don't think is up to the job. Ask the likes of Matt Adamson and Luke Burgess who've missed out on GF appearances at Ryan Bailey's expense.



Maybe not next year but only time will tell. The fact remains though that Bailey has been a member of the first choice 17 of Leeds' "incredible side" every year since 2004 (the first Grand Final year).

Alot has been made of the shoulder barge tackle it's my fav part of the game as a born a bred southerner who only got his first chance to play league at 25 I can tell you the rlc is filling up with ru players who love rl for simply this reason! The shoulder barge is great long may it remain. A third man shoulder charge though is naughty and should be banned as that is to injure.

Lets not confuse a legit much lived part if the game with a part of the game exploited by cowards to cause injury

Paul Sculthorpe, Jason Cayless and Keiron Cunningham all said that Bailey was a shi*hous. That was at a fans forum last year.