AFLs fans start a petition calling for them to have State of origin : www.gopetition.com/petitions/bri ... tball.html AFL player wants origin football to return : www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008 ... 240447.htm AFL boss wants state or origin : www.realfooty.com.au/articles/20 ... 49754.html RL : 3 origins, internationals and a world cup, plus a team in NZ. AFL : essendon vs carlton

AFLs fans start a petition calling for them to have State of origin : www.gopetition.com/petitions/bri ... tball.html AFL player wants origin football to return : www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008 ... 240447.htm AFL boss wants state or origin : www.realfooty.com.au/articles/20 ... 49754.html RL : 3 origins, internationals and a world cup, plus a team in NZ. AFL : essendon vs carlton

1. the gold coast didnt choose to turn their back on the games founders and the group that brought them into the comp. perth did. karma.

2. the money difference is a result of the SL war and the ownership of news ltd of RL.

3. a perth nrl team will take a decade of losses of millions of dollars to take off. a perth team has done nothing for union, their crowds have fallen qutie a bit. queensland clubs will be strong from day one. id rather have more strong clubs in the nrl atm and leave perth for later.

4. players like jonah lomu and tana umaga were RL juniors who we lost along the way through lack of opportunity. another NRL team offering more money than semi pro will help us keep our talent.

the ABs jersey doesnt mean much, they are losing their best players to france as well. we need to get the player salaries up to a level where union in the SH cant compete then we will have all the best talent.

the S14 is failing, union is no longer a threat to RL from australia or NZ.

Yes, by definition.

All this bloody expansionism, you have to be kidding!!

1. Boot all QLD teams & NZ out of the NRL

2. Bring back Newtown, Norths, Wests & Balmain, maybe even Glebe & UNI, possibly even Annandale ( what a great blast from the past that would be!!)

3. Change name back to NSWRL

4. Burn down ANZ & the Football stadium & make a law that all grounds must have a grass hill & must sell KB in cans ( preferably the old style heavy duty tins )

5. Bring back proper Kangaroo tours, all palyers must grow ridiculous beards & moustaches & must play Euchre, all non drinkers to be banned from tour, two teams to be picked with the nuffys playing midweek against club teams & the kangaroos saved for the big games on weekends.

6. get rid of all these poxy third world islanders & sheep fiddling kiwis

where would souths rabbitohs play

heres a pom perspective.i do often see huge attendances for afl.WHY?WHY THE @UCK does inferior product get em in?is it marketing?is it mass auto suggestion?im baffled.over here we havd to suffer soccer even the most dull 0-0draw doesnt detract from the massif crowds .incedently the most boring arrogant git of an ozzie i ever met in uk ....was a braindead union bum .

AFL is ingrained in the public much more than RL. There has been a long history of club membership (season tickets) and entire families sign up to be members. Also RL is mostly in a city where they don't have a great tradition of going to live sports games. Some comes down to marketing, some comes down to stadiums, some of it just comes down to Sydneysiders blase attitude to following their team. In non heartland areas RL has a very low profile and so attracts ltd fanbase at the moment. This is mainly due to no FTA coverage and poor marketing/management/media for the sport.

IMO the main reasons why the AFL has bigger crowds are:
1. Good, cheap public transport.
2. Big modern, central stadiums shared by many teams. (Melbourne has 9? AFL teams and onyl two stadiums)
3. They've been pushing memberships for a couple of decades.

The NRL in Sydney is only starting to push memberships and encourage teams to move into central stadiums. Hopefully it starts to pay off sooner rather than later.

Just for an example, I'll compare Brisbane to Sydney. Brisbane has large crowds, it also has a large, modern, central stadium, public transport to the stadium is great and the cost of the bus/train is included in the ticket price. Meanwhile in Sydney most teams play out of small stadiums, getting to the stadiums is an issue and most stadiums are not near PT.

When i went to Cronulla it was no dramas hopping on a train and a free bus to the ground. ANZ is easy to get to as well. SFS isn't too hard. Not been to Brooky, Parra or Penrith so can't comment.

If you've ever tried to get from Dandenong to the MCG you might not think PT in Melbourne is so great! PT to Subi in Perth is great with a train station right next door and trains running from virtually everywhere. Never been to Adelaide so can't comment.

kogarah. wonglonggong 10 mins walk from stations

not now . its a building site

thanks for the answers!interesting it does begger the question why the hell have the powers that be in rl not come up with an idea like 'membership'?i mean its not cutting edge marketing.also to cocede hegemony to afl,certainly in terms of game stewardship.our sport is blighted with d..kheads at the top its almost customary to self implode at the top .this is very similar to uk run by half wits post war who let a magnificent sport fall from grace.tell me someting positive !!is there a visionary in power yet?finally this greatest game deserves.finally who has been your worst and greatest rl ambassadors?(im thinkin more bosses and rl chief's,).tell me theres a deliverer in the making?