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| Goulding maybe, at least he is a centre though well below Watkins and Cudjoe
Ablett isn't even a good second row and he's a worse centre
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| Quote: Code13 " Ablett isn't even a good second row '"
I dont like Leeds either but come on mate. I know one game doesnt prove the statement right or wrong but he was awesome against Saints in the playoff game and shows what he is capable of. Although I agree i wouldnt have him anywhere near centre in a SL game never mind International.
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| Quote: Code13 "Goulding maybe, at least he is a centre though well below Watkins and Cudjoe
Ablett isn't even a good second row and he's a worse centre'"
cudjoe has had 1 good game in an important match and that was against leeds then went missing in the next, he is so overrated its becoming a joke. Goulding isn't the best in the world but he's better than cudjoe hands down and i don't particularly rate Goulding highly at least he's consistent in performances and knows charnley.
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| Goulding and Charnley would have been a better bet than Charnley and Watkins.
The Wigan pair have sorted out their defensive problems whereas Watkins proves on a weekly basis he's defensively hopeless, he is a better attacking option than Goulding.
The 9s should be McIlorum to start then Roby off the bench.
As for scrum half, I just don't want Chase in there, I don't buy it at all.
Chase out and Matty Smith in, or, have a chat with Danny boy to try and talk him round to playing for England
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| Quote: Father Ted "Goulding and Charnley would have been a better bet than Charnley and Watkins.
The Wigan pair have sorted out their defensive problems whereas Watkins proves on a weekly basis he's defensively hopeless, he is a better attacking option than Goulding.
The 9s should be McIlorum to start then Roby off the bench.
As for scrum half, I just don't want Chase in there, I don't buy it at all.
Chase out and Matty Smith in, or, have a chat with Danny boy to try and talk him round to playing for England'"
Chase is so much better and more talented than Smith it's not funny.
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| I'm not on about his ability.
I don't like the residential qualifications required which allow you to play for England. Should be based on being born in the country or a recent forebearer born in England IMO.
I know he's a better player than Smith but it hasn't worked yet for him in the England shirt.
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| no ones mentioned hardaker? didnt he play centre when we played exiles this year?
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| Quote: HKR Smithy "I dont like Leeds either but come on mate. I know one game doesnt prove the statement right or wrong but he was awesome against Saints in the playoff game and shows what he is capable of. Although I agree i wouldnt have him anywhere near centre in a SL game never mind International.'"
Carl Ablett is a very good SL player and one that contributes greatly to Leeds and their past success. But he hasn't got the extra level required to step up and be an international player. The same goes for Jamie Jones-Buchanan. Workmanlike. And workmanlike doesn't win you World Cups.
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| Quote: Awesome Aquinas "Carl Ablett is a very good SL player and one that contributes greatly to Leeds and their past success. But he hasn't got the extra level required to step up and be an international player. The same goes for Jamie Jones-Buchanan. Workmanlike. And workmanlike doesn't win you World Cups.'"
Think some are being over critical of Ablett. He's a very good centre when played on the left side (played very well with Hall before). He also has that rare and good asset of coming up with something in big games and not go hiding in them like some do. He's also probably been Leeds' best player over the last month or so, so in good form. I'd feel more confident seeing him at centre than Cudjoe and possibly even defensively worrying Watkins.
As for Hardaker at possible centre. He can come up with good stuff there for himself but his supply to his winger is non-existent.
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| If he rubs the opposition up the wrong way in international like he seems to do in SL that could be an asset.
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| watkins and cudjoe the England centres for the world cup.
cudjoe will let no one down, class act and for the best centre in super league. Had a poor game last time out but been brilliant all season..his defence is awesome and attack is improving year on year
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| His attack is, stat wise, better than any other centre in Superleague barring Watkins who has a slightly higher strike rate but makes more errors
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| Quote: kippaxtiger1 "no ones mentioned hardaker? didnt he play centre when we played exiles this year?'"
Yes and he was absolutely dire
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Yes and he was absolutely dire'"
cant have been that bad bagged a try, better than some options mentioned on here.
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| Quote: Durham Giant "Yes and he was absolutely dire'"
As dire as Brough the year before?
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