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| Quote: binks "What is being being said is that there is an algorithm to predict the result of a game ?
What complete and utter tosh if so Betfred should be sweating ( other bookies are available )'"
There is. All bookies use them. The MM would be interesting if it was pre game only, possibly at half time too. A useful example of this the Sky Sports Predictor for their Greyhound racing which has sometimes tipped every single winner of the card. Obviously this is mostly based on times, but there are numerous other factors that are taken into consideration.
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| The problem is that the game ebbs and flows so it will always be playing catch up and so wont become at least marginally accurate until the last quarter.
It would be interesting to see what it predicts at the end of a match compared to the actual score. As that (providing the formula/criteria is accurate) should give an idea of whether the better side won.
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "Agreed, but it appears to be another reason to have Clarke waffling on.'"
He has slipped up actually,the meter is not in Wigan colours.
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| Quote: Dave Lister "There is. All bookies use them. The MM would be interesting if it was pre game only, possibly at half time too. A useful example of this the Sky Sports Predictor for their Greyhound racing which has sometimes tipped every single winner of the card. Obviously this is mostly based on times, but there are numerous other factors that are taken into consideration.'"
...except there are very few variables in greyhound racing.
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| Does anyone else think Phil Clarke looks like a thunderbird?
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| "We predict that the team which is losing by 30 at half time is going to lose by around 30".
After 60 minutes, the scores are almost level and momentum has completely swung around with the other team still having all the game:
"We predict that the team which is now scoring for fun and has all the momentum is going to win by 4"
They go 16 in front with 10 to go
"We predict they are gonna win by 22"
Other team scores the traditional late couple of consolation scores and lose by 6
"Interesting. We'll feed all this data into the system and see if the aArgin meter really can predict what the final score is going to be."
No, Phil, it can't. Speculating about the score is good fun and all very well. But pretending that your Margin Meter could ever be taken seriously is taking muppetry to a whole new level.
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| Quote: Dave Lister "There is. All bookies use them. ... A useful example of this the Sky Sports Predictor for their Greyhound racing which has sometimes tipped every single winner of the card. Obviously this is mostly based on times, but there are numerous other factors that are taken into consideration.'"
Algorithms? I thought bookies used highly paid odds compilers, to make a book, on the fly?
What's this Sky Predictor? If somebody invented a system that could go through a 12 race card at a greyhound meet, I'd be pretty sure it'd be owned by a guy in a gold plated yacht moored off Barbados.
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| I will put money on it being right more than it is wrong.
I will also put money on it not factoring in whether or not your star player's girlfriend has run away with his dad and has started sending him daily naked photos.
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| Quote: Dave Lister "There is. All bookies use them. The MM would be interesting if it was pre game only, possibly at half time too. A useful example of this the Sky Sports Predictor for their Greyhound racing which has sometimes tipped every single winner of the card. Obviously this is mostly based on times, but there are numerous other factors that are taken into consideration.'"
Sorry but a Bookie is far from accurate enough to really call it a scientific algorithm, at best a very educated guess otherwise no one would ever win??
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| Quote: vbfg "I will put money on it being right more than it is wrong.
I will also put money on it not factoring in whether or not your star player's girlfriend has run away with his dad and has started sending him daily naked photos.'"
as an aside would the photos be of dad or his girlfriend, if the latter can i be copied in ??
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| I think an interesting use for it would be to say at the end of the game, we have inputted the stats from the game (not including tries and goals etc) and the margin metre reckons that based on this the score should be... Then see how that compares to the actual score. This would give us an idea of just how important things like possession and completion actually are.
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| Quote: binks "as an aside would the photos be of dad or his girlfriend, if the latter can i be copied in ??'"
Dirty boy!!!
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| Quote: binks "as an aside would the photos be of dad or his girlfriend, if the latter can i be copied in ??'"
Both. Together. With the Sydney Harbour bridge in the background.
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| At one point tonight it was saying Salford by 20....
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