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Normally a gesture like Tomkins' should be a 2 game ban and heavy fine, but as it was done to the Leeds fans he should just be let off with a warning.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "Just because the RFL have been consistently ignoring the issue doesn't mean they should continue to.'"


I don't disagree with that, but when do you suddenly draw the line? This could be a good start I suppose. I don't think Kyle Eastmond got a ban when he did it to his own fans.

Quote: Wellsy13 "I think a fine is in order, but a ban only if he refuses to accept what he did and apologise for it.'"


Well he has now been fined. The Wigan club/Sam Tomkins have made an official apology. Case closed.

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Quote: cadoo "I don't disagree with that, but when do you suddenly draw the line? This could be a good start I suppose. I don't think Kyle Eastmond got a ban when he did it to his own fans.

Well he has now been fined. The Wigan club/Sam Tomkins have made an official apology. Case closed.'"


I think Eastmond was suspended by the club. Doing it to your own fans after a match is a bit different to doing to opposition fans during a game though I think

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Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "Normally a gesture like Tomkins' should be a 2 game ban and heavy fine, but as it was done to the Leeds fans he should just be let off with a cash prize and a night with a couple of high-class hookers.'"

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Quote: Cronus "Edited for accuracy.
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No ban. Club fine and a token fine from the RFL will be sufficient. The hysteria about Tomkins on here is ridiculous. Mind you, so is the assertion that he's world class. He's done nothing to show that yet - hopefully he will, and hopefully he'll stay in league.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: nottinghamtiger "I was sat near Tomkins in the stand when Cas played Wigan earlier this year (he was rested after the Exiles game). That day, he was nothing short of the model professional. Great with all the kids, signed autographs throughout, smiled for photographs and generally came across as a very polite and decent young man.
However, it doesn't excuse his actions and I think a warning letter would be appropriate.'"


People tend to ignore that side of him. I served him on many occasions working at starbucks, he is a very nice guy.

On the pitch he is arrogant and people only look at that, it is part of what makes him the best player in the country.

He shouldn't have done it but part of me is glad he did. I just can't make my mind up on the whole issue really.

Wigan and Sam have made a statement, as Cadoo says, case closed.

And for the record, Briers, Mathers, Myler, Eastmond, King etc. have all done the same and not got a ban... so why should Tomkins.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "No ban. Club fine and a token fine from the RFL will be sufficient. The hysteria about Tomkins on here is ridiculous. Mind you, so is the assertion that he's world class. He's done nothing to show that yet -....'"


Ridiculous? I don't think so. He is clearly a once-in-a-generation talent and has consistently done things on the field that no other player can do. On that basis, you can certainly argue a case for him being world class - if he isn't, then who in the northern hemisphere is? What else could he do?

Or maybe you are one of those who can't make your mind up until someone has played 50 GB / Aus /NZ internationals? Get off the fence man!

As for his 2 fingers
Takes a man to make an unreserved apology, and given the fact that it was Leeds morons' ape-like goading (when he was theoretically playing on their side) that wound him up and obviously got to him in the first place, they should let it go. Though being utter morons, they of course won't.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Ridiculous? I don't think so. He is clearly a once-in-a-generation talent and has consistently done things on the field that no other player can do. On that basis, you can certainly argue a case for him being world class - if he isn't, then who in the northern hemisphere is? What else could he do?

Or maybe you are one of those who can't make your mind up until someone has played 50 GB / Aus /NZ internationals? Get off the fence man!

As for his 2 fingers

i suspect the morons who goaded him in leeds wont be at the lsv for the England Wales game,i also suspect his talents will be more appreciated in leigh.

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Did ‘Chris Joynt’s voluntary tackle’ thread have a poll? This is certainly the most participated in poll I’ve seen on RLFANS. The hysteria over Sam Tomkins can only be good for our game surely?

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "Did ‘Chris Joynt’s voluntary tackle’ thread have a poll? This is certainly the most participated in poll I’ve seen on RLFANS. The hysteria over Sam Tomkins can only be good for our game surely?'"


The hysteria surrounding this incident is happening on a rl message board,the rest of the world doesn't care.
Real hysteria followed blood gate in ru.

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Quote: cadoo "Well he has now been fined. The Wigan club/Sam Tomkins have made an official apology. Case closed.'"


Well done to him and Wigan. The RFL will take this into account in their decision.

In a strange way this may well be a springboard for him to move on and silence his critics with his skills rather than other antics.

I remember visiting Leigh as an away fan and seeing Tommy Martyn diffuse abuse by a piece of dazzling skill or a simple smile and chuckle.

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Saying sorry now and a club fine is damage limitation, they must be worried he'll get a match or two.
Well done to him doesnt come into it, he denied any knowledge until show video evidence, that was a lie !
So abusing fans and lying about it, should do for me, but we are talking about Wigan here.

The trouble with this is we are talking about this prat and not how Wigan got the result by dodgy reffing !


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Quote: Wilson "Saying sorry now and a club fine is damage limitation, they must be worried he'll get a match or two.
Well done to him doesnt come into it, he denied any knowledge until show video evidence, that was a lie !
So abusing fans and lying about it, should do for me, but we are talking about Wigan here.

The trouble with this is we are talking about this prat and not how Wigan got the result by dodgy reffing !
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Complete bull! You could say that banning ST is unfair on the rest of the Wigan team/club - why should they be punished for ST's personal stupidity? Wigan were the best team on Saturday and deserved the victory - there are dodgy ref calls in virtually all matches.

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For bringing the game into disrepute he deserves a ban, same as Rooney got a ban for swearing into a sky camera.

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