Apologies, if this has been posted but previously but the following link makes interesting reading!

rlhttps://www.wrexhamafc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10311~2342269,00.htmlrl

I understand that the RFL have a £700k charge on the Racecourse ground as part of the deal they struck with Moss & Roberts, so if the Racecourse ground gets sold then the RFL will possibly get some or all of that money back. However, given that Moss & Roberts own the Crusaders and don't have any money to invest, then surely the RFL then I have to think that the Crusaders do not have a viable long-term financial future. I think this is the beginning of the end of Crusaders. There is no way the RFL should really be considering offering the Crusaders another licence if Wrexham FC goes under and the Racecourse ground goes up for sale... I suspect that come the 6th May then this will be all over, unfortunately for Wrexham FC. I think in July the RFL will have no choice but to boot out Crusaders, assuming that they survive that long and suspect they might end up not finishing the season either way!

Yes, I am led to believe so.

They would be allowed back into the English pyramid (probably at Unibond North level) as Merthyr were when they went under last season.

That seems a fairly pro-wakefield reading of that. The Crusaders and WFC arent financially linked. To equate a statement saying the owners dont have the money to pour down what they not only accept to be, but in the very same article pretty much state to be a financial black hole that is WFC and the racecourse (in its current position) with they have no more money for any other venture is crazy.

Crusaders will finish the season, They have already applied for a license. This isnt new news to them. I think its sad that some people are death riding Crusaders because they think that their death will save another club from its own failures.

Could be wrong but I thought the Crusaders, WFC and the ground itself were all tied in by this Wrexham Village lark?

it says in the article


The Crusaders currently have a long lease to play Super League games at the Racecourse and this will not impact on their future.

They may still have a place to play but if the owners have no money and the company is making losses how will they remain solvent?

Borrow some more cash from Richard & Nigel, expansion is future, at all costs .

That would depend on who the lease is with. Presumably the same people own the Racecourse and if that company is insolvent then what is there stopping the ground being sold?

it doesnt say they have no money. It says they dont have the money to be putting into something where they never expect to get back even what they have put in now.

Smokey, do you blame Ian Lenighan for Wigans breaches of the salary cap?

Not having any more money for WFC could also be read as 'not prepared to put any more money in, and we're fed up with people saying they're going to buy the club and then apparently changing their minds'. It seems to me that the person muddying the waters is Stephanie Booth, and without her something would have been hammered out (possibly literally!) between Moss and Roberts on the one hand and the Supporters Trust on the other by now.

No, I dont. That would be ridiculous.

But Wakefields failures are Wakefields failures, wishing another club suffers to cover up those failures is pathetic.

Unless you were a Wakefield fan?

Firstly Smokey, yes, it is a little pro-Wakefield but that is because this folly called Crusaders has already failed twice and looks ever more likely to not have a viable financial footing IMO, unlike Wakefield, who now absolutley do.

Also, as Hopie and others have pointed out, yours seems to be a pro-Crusaders bias! You are correct Crusaders is now no longer owned by the Wrexham Village Ltd Holding Company, it is a new phoenix orphan company... but is has the same major shareholder and directors, Moss and Robert!!! These two directors have stated that they 'unable to continue' putting money into a loss making venture, you are correct, it does not state that they don't have any more money, just that they are 'unable'. So you are the RFL, we know Crusaders is a loss making venture, even more so at the moment given their reduced Sky money, and the two same people that are unable to continue to support Wrexham FC are the future of this Super League Club for another 3 years!!! So you kick out Wakefield, who now have a viable financial footing, an owner willing to spend up to the salary cap if they stay in Super League by topping up the shortfall, versus two characters whom have managed, at least one and possibly now two, other sports companies into administration!

Also, this very dodgy final statement about the Crusaders having a long term lease at the Racecourse ground... err they own it and might be selling it, so if they have to sell then how can the future of that lease be certain under a new ownership... it can't!

I am all for expansion but this has got silly now, if the Racecourse ground gets sold, the RFL should get a good part of it's money back and they should then cut their loses and move on, otherwise they risk losing face and even more money!