Indeed.
It's not even a subtle troll either.

No I don't and I don't think I said this at all.

The SKY deal is reducing but that has nothing to do with London at all......

Going back to this deal it was apparently struck quickly at a high value to reflect and head off BT who may have bid at that time, and new and supposedly exciting league system was introduced that had a big focus on the P&R battle.........

Ha, you agree with the analysis, that must make you a "troll" as well

Perhaps someone can come up with proof the Wimbledon move is up and running?

Did Ian Leneghan tell you this personally?

Just stop trolling

One of the biggest pluses that Rugby Union manages to attain is showpiece games at times of their choosing on free to air channels to get maximum exposure. None of this playing when tv companies have a slot to fill., & don't forget that RU is shown on about 5 fta channels in various formats.
Another great brainwashing piece concerning the public is that these international fixtures are played in stadiums that the RFU manages to fill by whatever means necessary & usually containing a fair amount of the great & good of society within those crowds.

Quote: Donnyman "Ha, you agree with the analysis, that must make you a "troll" as well https://democracy.merton.gov.uk/documen ... Report.pdf Here you go, planning application for change of use to include Rugby being heard tomorrow, perhaps you can come up with proof that it's not rather than opinion?

Quote: Donnyman "Ha, you agree with the analysis, that must make you a "troll" as well https://democracy.merton.gov.uk/documen ... Report.pdf Here you go, planning application for change of use to include Rugby being heard tomorrow, perhaps you can come up with proof that it's not rather than opinion?

The important quote to take away from the Carney/ward interview was that when asked, ward said he'd neither seen more heard if a strategic plan for the London Broncos over his tenure there as coach or player.
Hughes will either tire of flushing cash or his health will prevent him from doing so.....at that stage we are dead in the water with less income than the skolars.

As someone who has studied the goings on at the club with a microscope, during the long and slow painful death we are witnessing, there are a number of key dates to consider.
1. 11th hour redemption in 2005 & 2006 the first season as quins. We were buggered until Lenegan came along and shifted us back to the stoop. The last season as the broncos at Brentford saw us make the play offs with just short of 3,900 fans. There were a handful of fans (maybe 2 dozen) who walked away, unhappy with the Harlequins name. Stupid double header crowd aside, we had 4,100 at games that year....we had a Rugby League CEO in Paul Brown and a match day experience that included bouncy castles and petting zoo for the kids and bands in the bar after the game.
2. Lenegan buys Wigan. Reports at the time stated he wanted to remain as the senior shareholder at Quins, but the other clubs (or some if them) saw a conflict if interest......so Hughes was lumbered with the cost of running the club, which still had 4,000+ fans, but no CEO with a RL pedigree. The relationship between Harlequins union was now managed by Hughes and where Evans at union and Lenegan/Brown had got on....Hughes didn't get on with the landlord. At the end of 2008 we were moved across to the bigger kings bar but increasingly the match day experience became strained. The RFL reached out to offer marketing help and arranged for two WCC warm up games, both being well attended....but the club still hadn't attempted to attract locals to games and there was no marketing.
3. Paul Blanchard was offloaded to us as a CEO from HKR who dodged a bullet as he had no experience of the game, let alone running a team in London. He was replaced by fielding supremo, Gus.....and between these two, we saw between 15 and 20% of our fans drift each year....until in desperation, The African Fielder convinced Hughes it was the quins name that was killing us, so we went to be the broncos again.
2013. After already telling quins we were off at the seasons end, before finding a home (there's a pattern here) we made the CC semi final......we got spanked live on TV, Hughes spat his dummy and put us on the block...either for sale or closure.
That December..... The RFL paid the guy at Barnet £100,000 to take us in and Hughes wound his neck in.
4. 2014.....with no time to build a squad, we headed for the trap door. Towards the seasons end, the now expert recruiter had taken on a 3rd rate coach called Joey Grima, who I believe holds the worst coaching record of any broncos coach. After a bitterly disappointing first season in the 2nd tier, we move to th wedding venue in Ealing...... Here is what Mr Hughes had to say about that.
rlhttps://youtu.be/Aam3_ld7dzQrl
2018.....Accidental promotion which then highlighted how far SL had fallen the following year when a championship side almost avoided the drop in 2019 then resulted in us starting 2020 with an average squad.....before covid pulled the plug.
2020.....At some stage during lockdown, conversations regarding a replacement for Toronto turned to stadiums.....and Ealing was declared not good enough, enabling the northern clubs to pull up the drawbridge and promote not Fev, but Leigh.
Now saddled with a new stadium project, Hughes has gone stealthily silent, letting 2 more of his fantastic appointments run the club down in preparation for part time existence whilst essentially alienating 70% of whatever fanbase they had left. I'd add that anyone who offered to waive a refund in 2020 in return for a polo shirt has yet to receive their shirt, whilst any negative comments on social media results in the club issuing bans. In once case a fan has been asked to never return to watch the games.....a fan of a Few decades
Mr Hughes has ploughed £30,000,000 into the club and has absolutely nothing to show for it. His pig headed reluctance to listen to the RFL or other SL chairmen and his desire to run his club his way has done this and if the RFL don't step in, then the academy players who are coming through will be lost to union and the game will be reliant on Hector at Skolars .

So the troll who started this thread is right.....London may well fold, but it has nothing to do with anyone else other than David Hughes. In his time he may have flushed £30,000,000 of his money, but he also flushed another £20,000,000 in central and TV funding too.....not to mention the gate receipts of some 500,000 fans in that period too .....I'd laugh if it weren't so utterly depressing

That's what I said so looks like your trolling too.

I've given you proof that the amendment to planning application is progressing which is key to any agreement to move as without it there's no way they could play there. Club have stated they are moving and the planning application is progressing, grateful to hear why you suggest otherwise and why I'd be party to such an agreement between Broncos and Wimbledon AFC? My opinion is that it's one hell of a gamble for the club.

You've posted no evidence whatsoever to back up why Danny Ward departure wasn't down to results. Given Danny Ward stated on Sky that it was agreed he was staying until the end of the year but was asked to leave after the Featherstone result. What leads you to state it wasn't down to results? Let me know what you have that differs from someone who was party to the conversation?

You stated Broncos bid was ignored, Leigh were announced as having the best application, London were refused not ignored unless of course you can prove otherwise.

And just to be clear, proof please not the owner of Wigan or Saints told you in a dream.

To orangeman

I don't revel in the misfortunes of London R.L but do question their approach to achieving stability as I feel you may well do yourself.

I read your post with interest & out of it I have 2 burning questions.

Given that London R.L has been offered & given as you say both intellectual & financial support by the RFL *something not offered to all R.L Clubs* & given as you say circa £30 Million *invested/gifted* + £20 Million of Sky/RFL money as you point out is not enough to sustain London as a Super League pro team or currently a top Championship team then .....

1. What is your current average attendance ? (As it directly affects sustainability)
1a. What is stopping it's growth ?

2. Is there value in London restarting as a Championship 1 Club &
2b would it be possible to become fan owned ? Would there be any desire in that or be financially viable, albeit starting at a lower level ?

So sneakily, 4 questions really.

Nor do I Ste, nor do I...............And exactly like you, I question their stability...................